Westminstenders: Run Forrest Run

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Need i say more?

DGR, now that might well happen in the future, but not even the government are planning that for 1st Jan 2021. Are they?

I don't think it matters. We know they'll just spout some bollocks, the faithful will lap it up. The newspapers will just ignore it and reality will continue to warp.

During the war, V2 strikes weren't allowed to be reported (if at all) as anything other than "gas explosions". There's a diary somewhere of an teenage girl in Kent who wrote "another German gas main exploded last night".

Gatherings of more than 30 people are illegal.
Breaking the rules could cost you thousands.
If you attend an illegal gathering, you could be fined £100, increasing on each offence up to £3,200.

Best get the police to my son's school gates then.

You can't get because of the crowds gabbing. The head has said its not her job to police the rules.

DH is doing the drop off and pick up at the moment because the crowds are so bad, and there is no one way system so there is a massive bottle neck at one point. He can get through much easier than I can and doesn't get harassed by all the idiots nattering.

Its horrendous.

Anybody who thinks that clearance centres NOT at the point of entry are a good idea
has clearly NEVER had anything to do with the freight transport industry
FFS
why do airports put passport control before the baggage carousels not after
even thickos like Raab should be able to work it out

I wrote to my local school complaining that just to get to our local station keyworkers from our roads were having to run the gauntlet of gabbing crowds and kids on scooters entirely ignoring the rules on social distancing and keeping families separate. They were finding it a worse infection risk than commuting two hours each side of the day. This was just with 2 year groups back, now it will be 1500 pupils back between Reception and sixth form. We had the same response, nothing we can do about behaviour outside the school....... Our infections just rose, all connected to returning holiday makers.... It is a faith school, most parents are middle class pew sitters, no increased risk there then... And just to add to the risk all our roads are to become school streets, cars banned for four hours a day so we swap speeding 4 by 4s for even more crowded pavements......

@ListeningQuietly

Anybody who thinks that clearance centres NOT at the point of entry are a good idea has clearly NEVER had anything to do with the freight transport industry FFS why do airports put passport control before the baggage carousels not after even thickos like Raab should be able to work it out

I thought it was because "people" comes before "suitcase" in the dictionary ?

Bankrupt, Country, Dictatorship, Fraud and Illegal also come before Trade in the dictionary.

This is what can happen when you get your paperwork wrong.

DW prompted me to look at the BBC (story about Feargal ...) and I caught

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54021421

One thing that immediately struck me was the comments are much much more BrexitSceptic than they used to be. Maybe reality is dawning ? Or has Vlad just turned the bots off ? After all there's not much more to be done now is there ? The good ship Brexit is proceeding down the slipway nicely. No chance of any extension to transition, even if Boris wanted it himself.

I wonder what serves the disintegration of the UK better ? Self immolation with the public cheering it on, or self immolation despite the obvious protests of the public ? Because that will probably determine the media coverage in 2021.

Personally I think the story of the government telling millions of people to STFU is far more destabilising than interviews with Farage telling us how lucky we are.

@Peregrina

This is what can happen when you get your paperwork wrong.

Well obviously the UK won't give two shits about imports to the UK. Why should it ?

And exports ? Well - that's the exporters lookout isn't it. Don't expect any help from HMG when that balloon goes up (does make you wonder what taxes are for).

Out of interest I wonder what countries ( if you're Googling remember to use "-US") have broken international treaties in the past, and what sanctions they faced. A superficial Googling (other search engines are available) suggests it's not a common occurrence ?

So the statutory instrument that came into force today enabling the government to build Brexit Customs Car Parks affects not just Warrington but 29 councils in total.

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/928/schedule/1/made
This is the legislation here.

The 29 councils make sense in some cases. Less so in others.

They are:
Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole Council
Cheshire East Council
Cheshire West and Chester Council
Devon County Council
Dorset Council
East Riding of Yorkshire Council
East Sussex County Council
Essex County Council
Halton Borough Council
Hampshire County Council
Hull City Council
Kent County Council
Lancashire County Council
Leicestershire County Council
Liverpool City Council
Medway Council
North East Lincolnshire Council
North Lincolnshire Council
Plymouth City Council
Portsmouth City Council
Salford City Council
Solihull Metropolitan Borough Council
Somerset County Council
Southampton City Council
Suffolk County Council
Thurrock Council
Trafford Council
Warrington Borough Council
Warwickshire County Council

Now Trafford and Salford actually make sense to me (Manchester Ship Canal has a surprising amount of trade), but I admit I'm struggling with the land locked councils of East Cheshire, Leicestershire and Warwickshire.

RTB

Think Airports ....

At the moment shipments coming in by air from the EU are popped onto a vehicle and wend their merry way

Now even diddy airports are going to have to emulate the mega centres at Heathrow and Gatwick

Now Trafford and Salford actually make sense to me (Manchester Ship Canal has a surprising amount of trade), but I admit I'm struggling with the land locked councils of East Cheshire, Leicestershire and Warwickshire.

Google is pisspoor pre-1997, but I distinctly remember part of the sales spiel for the Channel Tunnel being that eventually you could catch a train in Edinburg, passing through Manchester and Birmingham n your way direct to Paris. As do my brothers and wife.

It was certainly still alive around 1997 as land near Coleshill (Warks) was earmarked for the freight terminal part of the operation.

I remember being ridiculously proud that the UK was integrating into Europe so whole heartedly.

Anyone read "I Claudius" ? Can you remember the story after he takes power and asks for tenders to upgrade the port at Ostia ? (And the reason he built silos for grain in Rome ?)

@ListeningQuietly

RTB

Think Airports ....

At the moment shipments coming in by air from the EU are popped onto a vehicle and wend their merry way

Now even diddy airports are going to have to emulate the mega centres at Heathrow and Gatwick

If you are planning Brexit Lorry Parks for airports, then bloody hell you are expecting MASSIVE customs problems and delays.

I think that emphases the scale of problems they are expecting. The amount of freight we get via air is still relatively small from Europe.

I'm wondering whether some of them are intended to be used as pre clearance for further onward journeys into Kent? Going along with the Kent access permit that was being discussed the other day?

@ListeningQuietly

RTB

Think Airports ....

At the moment shipments coming in by air from the EU are popped onto a vehicle and wend their merry way

Now even diddy airports are going to have to emulate the mega centres at Heathrow and Gatwick

I wonder how many more runways will be needed ?

Also - as we should know (I'll drop it here for when the inevitable chorus of "how could we have known" strikes up) air travel is incredibly sensitive to weather conditions. One icy foggy week could see immediate chaos across the freight world.

If you are planning Brexit Lorry Parks for airports, then bloody hell you are expecting MASSIVE customs problems and delays.
Yes, I am.
Because so few people realise that every Ebay and Amazon package coming through the post from the Continent will now need to be checked for Customs .....

I remember stories about being able to catch a through train from Newcastle and then straight through to Paris.

Because so few people realise that every Ebay and Amazon package coming through the post from the Continent will now need to be checked for Customs .....

want a bet ?

This is going to be like the opening of Terminal 5, but on the scale of a country, and involving the food that feeds a nation, rather than the suitcase you need to take for a short break abroad. We are messing with so many complex (as opposed to complicated - many are that too) systems simultaneously there are going to be tons of unanticipated consequences.

Peter Foster posted something the other day about the CO2 shortage a couple of years back leading to KFC running short on chicken. There will be stuff like that happening all over.

whereare
I reckon there will be a nice black market in these with fake numbers
en.precintia.com/blog/precintos-seguridad-camiones-debes-saber/
or these
www.insight-security.com/bolt-lock-customs-approved-freight-container-lorry-seals

Remember that Essex case - the driver cut the seals on the truck "to check the paperwork"

@Peregrina

I remember stories about being able to catch a through train from Newcastle and then straight through to Paris.

I guess I could tweak the Google-fu. But my assertion is we were gaslit on that big time.

When you start digging, you realise that "now" started years ago. Only no one noticed when it suited them.

If Sun Tzu didn't mention something about turning you enemies in to friends to help fight the friends you make enemies of, then he wasn't really being profound.

Boris defending Abbott now “ . What I would say about Tony Abbott is this is a guy who was elected by the people of the great liberal democratic nation of Australia. It’s an amazing country, it’s a freedom-loving country, it’s a liberal country. There you go, I think that speaks for itself.”

I think he missed a bit out ..... “a freedom loving country, it’s a liberal country. They kicked him out in record time, there you go, I think it speaks for itself”

We can only hope our own liberal country makes a quicker job of it......

I have just made a note of the customs/freight companies you mentioned Listening, thank you - forward planning for a growth area if I get made redundant next year!

I remember stories about being able to catch a through train from Newcastle and then straight through to Paris.
Yup. It wend from Dover Western Docks to Dunkirk.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Ferry