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Westminstenders: Where are we now?

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RedToothBrush · 12/06/2020 21:21

Twenty thousand people
Cross Bösebrücke
Fingers are crossed
Just in case
Walking the dead

Where are we now, where are we now?
The moment you know, you know, you know

Just that.

Don't really want to reflect more than that right now.

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DGRossetti · 20/06/2020 08:13

Some good news: the hateful Katie Hopkins has been permanently suspended from twitter.

But they wont say why.

Because it's hard to find the "single most offensive" tweet from her over the years. Even I was taken aback at her Rashford one.

DGRossetti · 20/06/2020 08:20

Odd source, but enough detail too suggest someone (doesn't) know something ....

www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-turkey-ppe-health-ministry-no-files-fiasco

EXCLUSIVE: UK health ministry has no records on Turkish PPE fiasco and won't say if files destroyed

The British government's health ministry says it has no record whatsoever of its shambolic attempt to import life-saving personal protective equipment (PPE) for health workers from Turkey at the height of the coronavirus crisis.

Officials say they do not have a single report or memo about the affair, nor a single email, either generated within the ministry or sent to it.

The claim raises concerns that Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) files are going missing in advance of a public inquiry into the UK government's handling of the pandemic.

More than 200 healthcare and care home workers have died in the UK due to Covid-19, following months of complaints about shortages of PPE items such as face masks, visors and gloves.

Among members of the public, the country has one of the highest death rates in the world.

Asked repeatedly whether it was destroying files - an act that would be unlawful in the UK - the DHSC refused to comment.

“We have nothing further to add,” a department spokesperson told MEE.

The UK’s Cabinet Office, which co-ordinates the work of the prime minister’s office and government departments, also denied that it had any records about the matter. It too declined to say whether any records had been destroyed.

The two departments made the claims after receiving requests made by Middle East Eye under the UK’s Freedom of Information Act. Appeals are now under way at the request of MEE.

The UK’s defence ministry and foreign office said that it did hold relevant material and are now considering requests that the material be released.

Prominent scientists, doctors' and nurses' leaders and bereaved families are demanding a public inquiry into the UK’s handling of the pandemic, and ministers have conceded that there will be “lessons to be learned” once it has passed.

At the height of the Covid-19 crisis in the UK in mid-April, when rates of infections and deaths were starting to soar and when healthcare workers were wearing bin liners because PPE was in such short supply, a government minister had claimed that the following day the UK would be importing 84 tonnes of PPE from Turkey.

A few hours earlier, the Financial Times had published a highly critical report on the British government’s attempts to encourage companies to design new ventilators, and ministers were aware that the Sunday Times was about to publish a lengthy investigation into their failure to respond quickly to the crisis, and secure more supplies of PPE.

UK ordered emergency coronavirus gear from Turkish company unable to provide it

Insiders within Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Downing Street office say that his chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, has “an obsession with announcements”, using them to deflect attention from the government’s problems, but showing little interest in delivering the substance of ministers’ pledges once those announcements have been made.

When the 84 tonnes of PPE failed to arrive in the UK the following day, a British Royal Air Force (RAF) cargo plane was dispatched to Istanbul, with the British defence ministry briefing journalists that this was intended to "put pressure on Ankara" to release the consignment.

The Turkish government told MEE that it was doing all it could to assist its fellow Nato ally, but said that there was a major problem: the private company that was selling the PPE had only ever had the capacity to supply 2,500 items.

Officials in Ankara appeared bemused that the British government should be suggesting that it had got to grips with its PPE crisis by entering into a contract with such a tiny firm.

Referring to the current requirement that Turkish firms must apply for permission to export PPE from the country, one official said: “God, the company doesn't even have the capacity to apply online for the export exemption.”

The Turkish government says it appealed to garment manufacturers across the country, which had been repurposed to manufacture PPE, asking them to assist the UK amid its deepening crisis.

The RAF cargo aircraft eventually returned to the UK three days later than promised, but with less than a quarter of the PPE supplies pledged in the ministerial announcement.

There were subsequently claims that some of the material was substandard, although the Turkish company responsible for the shipment said the British government knew that it had provided - free of charge - some PPE that was intended not for use in intensive care units, but which was instead designed to be donned by visitors to hospitals and care homes.

The episode led to a well-publicised row between the DHSC and Number 10, with Boris Johnson’s aides suggesting to journalists that the health secretary, Matt Hancock, would be blamed for the affair. Healthcare unions warned that all confidence in Hancock was “draining away.”

For his part, Hancock telephoned his Turkish counterpart, Fahrettin Koca, to thank him for the support that Turkey had offered British healthworkers.

Yet according to the DHSC’s response to MEE’s freedom of information request, all this happened without any documents or memoranda being retained within the department, and with not a single email about the episode, written or received by anyone working there, being preserved.

Meanwhile, a health service procurement agency known as NHS Supply Chain told MEE that it held no records on the affair as they would be held by the DHSC.

Following publication of this report, the DHSC maintained that it did not have any records relating to the matter - not even keeping a note of Hancock's telephone conversation - because the importation had been the work of a local NHS organisation in London.

IIt is unclear whether the health ministry and Cabinet Office have destroyed records relating to the affair, have simply handled the freedom of information request in an incompetent fashion, or have decided to flout their obligations under the law.

However, critics of Cummings say that his contempt for the UK’s Freedom of Information Act is well-known: in 2011, when he was an adviser at the UK’s Department for Education, the Financial Times caught him using a personal email address in an attempt to evade the requirements of the act.

In one email to colleagues, Cummings wrote: “I will not answer any further e-mails to my official DfE account  … i will only answer things that come from gmail accounts from people who i know who they are. [sic] i suggest that you do the same in general but thats obv up to you guys – i can explain in person the reason for this .”

The Information Commissioner, the official responsible for enforcing the UK’s Freedom of Information Act, was reported to have been shocked by that email.

Subsequently, the Financial Times reported that Cummings and other senior advisers to then-education secretary Michael Gove had systematically destroyed official government correspondence. Gove is now the minister responsible for the Cabinet Office.

Destruction of government documents that are of historical significance - such as those that would assist any public inquiry - is unlawful under the UK’s Public Records Acts, while destruction or alteration of any document that has been requested under the Freedom of Information Act is a criminal offence.

Polls suggest that the British public’s trust in Johnson’s government has plummeted since May, when Cummings and his wife, Mary Wakefield, a journalist, were discovered to have ignored the lockdown rules that he had helped develop for the British public.

A magazine article that Wakefield had written in which she falsely implied that the couple had remained at their London home has been referred to the UK’s press regulator.

RedToothBrush · 20/06/2020 09:41

uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN23Q38D?__twitter_impression=true
Britain to scale back on independent satellite system - FT

British ministers are looking to scale back plans for a 5 billion pound ($6.18 billion) satellite navigation system which was introduced back in 2018 as an alternative to the European Union's Galileo project, the Financial Times reported on Friday.

And

The satellite program was expected to potentially rival EU's Galileo system, which is designed to compete with the U.S. Global Positioning System (GPS), used for commercial, military and other critical applications such as guiding aircraft.

Only a minor issue then...

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RedToothBrush · 20/06/2020 09:51

www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-politics-53111507?__twitter_impression=true
Government criticised for delay in setting up security committee

The government has been accused of avoiding scrutiny by not establishing a key parliamentary committee.

The Intelligence and Security Committee (ISC) has not sat since before December's election - its longest break since it was established in 1994.

It has led to concerns about a lack of oversight over important decisions on intelligence matters.

The committee is also due to publish a report into alleged Russian interference in British democracy.

It produced the report last October, but it didn't receive sign off from No 10 before the election

And

The ISC is one of Parliament's most important committees, overseeing the seven agencies and departments which make up the UK intelligence community.

It sets its own agenda and can call ministers, intelligence chiefs and others to give evidence. It also has access to classified information, subject to the Official Secrets Act.

Because of the sensitive nature of many of its inquiries, its evidence sessions are held in private.

Ultimately, members are appointed by the prime minister. But political parties are asked to nominate MPs - based on their relative size in the Commons - and there are also members from the Lords.

I understand opposition parties confirmed their nominations months ago. Sources said there had been enough time for relevant vetting to be carried out for new members.

But there is a lack of clarity on the Conservative candidates, with Tory MPs kept in the dark about whether a final decision has even been made six months after the election.

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RedToothBrush · 20/06/2020 09:58

Let me get this straight. In the past 24 hours it's been reported that the prime minister was unaware of the biggest issue of the week with the public (free school dinners) and no senior spad thought it a good idea to keep him up to date with such matters.

It turns out a key contract with Turkey has no official documentation or correspondence but we do have a spad who has previously recommended breaking protocol and bypassing the law by using personal email instead of government email addresses.

And the key committee overseeing security matters in Parliament which was due to publish a report on Russian interference in British politics has not sat since the election as its members have not been approved by the PM.

This report on Russian interference in British politics may or may not contain reference to Vote Leave and Dominic Cummings personally (Cummings studied in Russia) and the Prime Minister (there were concerns about who Johnson was socialising with).

These 3 stories are all individual stories and in no way have some sort of common theme running through them and in no way ask questions about the leadership of the PM and who is actually running the country.

But yes.

Let's plough on with Brexit. It's not tied to disaster capitalism in anyway whatsoever.

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RedToothBrush · 20/06/2020 10:18

Also today

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/rishi-sunak-settles-in-as-downing-sts-captain-sensible-t7xr2689g
Rishi Sunak settles in as Downing St’s Captain Sensible
The chancellor’s push to reform pensions came during a torrid week for the prime minister, Steven Swinford writes

Steven Swinford @steven_swinford
Times weekend long read:

It's been a gruelling week for Boris Johnson & No 10, but they are hoping to turn things round

Next week PM will announce easing of 2m rule & reopening of hospitality

The following week it's PM's big economic recovery speech

Theme of Boris Johnson's flagship speech to relaunch economy will be 'build, build, build'

The slogan is being viewed as potential successor to 'get brexit ' in No 10

It will be focused on jobs, health and homes, with huge programme of investment

The PM will be 'much more visible' in coming weeks as social-distancing rules are relaxed

Rishi Sunak will also be front and centre selling the plan to the nation

Expect infrastructure plans to be brought forward, hospital building to be accelerated & 100,000s of new homes

The PM and No 10 will make a concerted effort to reunite the Conservatives & quell anger on backbenches

Andrew Mitchell tells @RSylvesterTimes that the atmosphere on backbenches is 'sulphurous'

'There's a strong sense Downing Street is a land apart from parliamentary party'

There's still a lot of anger in Cabinet

Last week Isaac Levido gave a presentation at political cabinet which showed falling poll numbers

'Everyone was very polite about it,” one minister said.

'Nobody mentioned that Dominic Cummings could have had something to do with it'

On Tuesday Cabinet was told of govt u-turn on free school meals after campaign by @MarcusRashford

Many of those present had spent past 24 hours defending Govt's line

One minister said: 'They treat cabinet ministers like s*, they have total disdain for everything'

There are signs that the ship is turning

'They’ve got all the dirty linen out,' one senior Conservative said

'The app’s not a good look but it’s done, they’re finally sorting something out on schools. It feels like they’ve got a bit of space to breath and focus on the future'

Ministers are watching No 10 and No 11 relationship with interest

On Weds @GeorgeWParker revealed Rishi Sunak wants to suspend pensions triple lock

'You’ve got to ask whether this is a Cameron-Osborne sofa government or we could be in for a Blair-Brown shitshow,'one said

  1. The backbenchers are extremely volitile atm. And many of the Cabinet feel shat all over.
  2. The party don't think No 10 are on the same planet as them and they think Johnson is deliberately cut off from reality in his own world.
  3. Johnson's popularity and favourability with the public is plummeting. Opinion thinks the government have handled Covid-19 badly.
  4. Dominic Cummings. Johnson won't get rid of him. How do you get rid of him if Johnson won't?
  5. We need a fall guy for poor handling of Covid-19. And no one wants to touch the toxicity of Brexit.
  6. We have several people lining up to be framed as the safe pair of competent hands. In the financial corner we have Sunak. In the health corner we have head of the health and social care committee Hunt who has asked all the right questions (unlike the opposition).
  7. In the fall guy corner, we have the man being framed as having a mid life crisis and penis extentions (see today's guardian about Johnson and his shagtastic paint job) and the man who has an app, oh wait no actually he's got a different app and he's definitely got 100,000 tests a day.

Any one want to hazard a guess as to what might happen after a disastrous January next year?

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RedToothBrush · 20/06/2020 10:21

This is quite extraordinary

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/andrew-mitchell-an-odour-of-disrespect-is-wafting-across-the-road-from-10-downing-st-vcr5qh5kt
Andrew Mitchell: ‘An odour of disrespect is wafting across the road from No 10’
With Labour resurgent, the Tories can’t afford to become the nasty party again, the Tory grandee tells Rachel Sylvester and Alice Thomson

Andrew Mitchell said that Boris Johnson had promised him the Department for International Development would be safe but wouldn’t say that he had lied

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Peregrina · 20/06/2020 10:24

Destruction of government documents that are of historical significance - such as those that would assist any public inquiry - is unlawful under the UK’s Public Records Acts, while destruction or alteration of any document that has been requested under the Freedom of Information Act is a criminal offence.

The Empire mentality is alive and well. Compare this to the fate of documents as the UK withdrew from its colonies - shredded, dumped in the deep sea, or illegally withdrawn to the UK. Compare that behaviour to, to the Stasi - who busily shredded records once the Wall fell.

RedToothBrush · 20/06/2020 10:30

Also, tomorrow is Sunday.

Cummings loves a good announcement. So does Johnson. They both like the Sunday press and the Sunday shows and the Sunday evening announcements.

I am fully expecting the announcement of the removal of the 2m rule (with or without the promised full review) and a rehashed announcement of the reopening of pubs etc scheduled for the 4th to be either late tonight or next Saturday.

Given the week the PM has had and the circling of enemies and the rising anger of the 1922 committee don't be surprised if some big announcements are rushed out today.

I am very much wondering what they will try and rush out today as another week like this could start to get awkward again for No10.

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squid4 · 20/06/2020 10:39

How are they planning to staff these seventy squillion hospitals they are allegedly going to build

squid4 · 20/06/2020 10:41

My impression on the ground is that covid19 has temporarily frozen the mass exodus of nhs staff to retirement sickness and other countries (because people wanted to help) - once it becomes apparent it's not been dealt with and it's not going away I think even more will leave

Word on the ground is that hospital car parking charges are coming back soon. finger of blame starting to going to nhs now. people are sick of it

HoneysuckIejasmine · 20/06/2020 10:43

It's almost as if Cummings in behind everything at the moment. Definitely running the shop.

KonTikki · 20/06/2020 11:42

Thank goodness they have abandoned their vanity project of building a UK based Global Positioning System in space.
GPS is arguably the greatest invention since the combustion engine, given to the world free of charge under Clinton.
Galileo, the European development, is controversial enough. For the UK to try and develop their own system makes flags on RAF planes look positively benign.

SabrinaThwaite · 20/06/2020 12:04

But there is a lack of clarity on the Conservative candidates, with Tory MPs kept in the dark about whether a final decision has even been made six months after the election

Times reporting that Villiers has now been blocked because she “showed disloyalty” by voting against Government to block lowering food import standards.

And Grayling as Chairman? Seriously?

Peregrina · 20/06/2020 12:57

Villiers was a True Brexiter, even as N I Secretary. Then she later served in DEFRA. Does this mean she has begun to find where her spine is?

Peregrina · 20/06/2020 13:11

It seems that Piers Corbyn has been charged with breaking the lockdown rules. I wonder if he will be able to try a Cummings defence?

JeSuisPoulet · 20/06/2020 13:17

I'm sure you've all seen the COVID app in your mobiles - do we know if it is the Google one or the UK Govt one?
(If anyone hasn't found it yet it's under Settings on Android and Privacy>Health for Apple)

prettybird · 20/06/2020 13:30

Looks like it is "pre-installed" (in latest iOS upgrade?) on an iPhone - but can't be activated until you've actually downloaded an "authorised" app.

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thecatfromjapan · 20/06/2020 13:43

Surely it must be google?

I can't see any information about 'whose' it is, though! 😯

thecatfromjapan · 20/06/2020 13:49

LOL @ the NHS app still not being ready.

🤦‍♀️

thecatfromjapan · 20/06/2020 13:50
TheABC · 20/06/2020 15:35

munches popcorn
I think @RedToothBrush has nailed the single key point, now.

Johnson is seen as a useful fall guy for Brexit. The amount of shit his party will put up with is in direct proportion to the benefits they think they will get from Johnson's gamble on the talks (or no-deal).

So, what exactly does the Tory party want from Brexit?

JustAnotherPoster00 · 20/06/2020 15:51

So, what exactly does the Tory party want from Brexit?

The abolition of workers rights and tax legislation more favourable to their donors

DGRossetti · 20/06/2020 15:57

I'm sure you've all seen the COVID app in your mobiles - do we know if it is the Google one or the UK Govt one?

It's not an "app". It's the infrastructure component any app would need to work. It has to be installed that way in order to work within the Android security model. (Issues about it being silently installed without permission are for another discussion).

Apple - under iOS - have done the same.

This is one reason any UK attempt to "roll their own" was doomed to failure. Apple and Google simply don't allow anyone else the access to the device needed to reliably use the bluetooth stack. (We tried to tell them at the time, but it seems once again it was a waste of peoples time and money becoming experts).

And the idea that Apple could learn anything from the UK government is so risible as to be verging on delusional.

I still think that the UK government has pretty much given up. Maybe not in a single conscious moment of decision. It's just they've lost control of so much it's impossible to begin to imagine how you would recover it. So not too bad for young white folk. Less so as you move out from those bubbles - to coin a phrase.

Incidentally, looks like Florida is starting to reap the rewards of it's "Victory" over C-19, with cases rocketing (again). So we can get an idea of what we can look forward to.

I take it we all have up to date wills ?