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Westminstenders: Where are we now?

966 replies

RedToothBrush · 12/06/2020 21:21

Twenty thousand people
Cross Bösebrücke
Fingers are crossed
Just in case
Walking the dead

Where are we now, where are we now?
The moment you know, you know, you know

Just that.

Don't really want to reflect more than that right now.

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Sostenueto · 18/06/2020 17:39

Apparently Apple are to blame cos they won't change their system for world beating United Kingdom🤔

mrslaughan · 18/06/2020 17:39

Is Dido Harding Matt Hancocks support friend?

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2020 17:40

Schools and life will not be normal before Xmas.

If you think that you don't fully understand populism and the neo-liberalism nature of this government. The schools will be back to normal in September.

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DGRossetti · 18/06/2020 17:45

Apparently Apple are to blame cos they won't change their system for world beating United Kingdom

The UK is more than free to work on it's own world-beating portable computer design and the necessary operating system to manage it, if it wants to call the shots. Otherwise - much like the NSA and indeed US federal government, it can go fuck itself sideways.

I'm wondering if the UK (and possibly US in some quarters) thought they could use C-19 as a sneaky way to get Apple to create that fabled magic backdoor ?

colouringindoors · 18/06/2020 17:48

mrslaughan

so Boris isn't even pretending any more. Cummings is running the show 😡

DGRossetti · 18/06/2020 17:49

If you think that you don't fully understand populism and the neo-liberalism nature of this government. The schools will be back to normal in September.

The UK has simply given up.

(Question: If the UK hadn't given up, what would it look like ?).

The problem is the Rest Of The World (remember them) seems much less inclined to see their citizens die. And it's them Boris needs to convince to die for Britain. We've already signed up to that (only some haven't quite realised yet). I'm vaguely recalling a BTF sketch about a general sending a man on a "jolly tricky" mission ....

Goodbye Curruthers.
Goodbye sir ... or is it "Au Revoir" ?
No Curruthers. Goodbye.

colouringindoors · 18/06/2020 17:51

Red I'd normally agree with you, but the school where I work and the one my kids are at (both secondary) are really really unlikely to have all students back.

Sostenuto agree. Totally and utterly f***

colouringindoors · 18/06/2020 17:54

back.... in September

DGRossetti · 18/06/2020 17:55

So sorry for not getting back sooner @ListeningQuietly here's the source for all CCFF data ...

www.bankofengland.co.uk/markets/bank-of-england-market-operations-guide/results-and-usage-data

ListeningQuietly · 18/06/2020 18:27

Hi there DGR
Cheers for that. Interesting. Some pretty dubious claims there IMHO

tropafp8 · 18/06/2020 18:28

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BigChocFrenzy · 18/06/2020 18:32

Currently, the govt are hiding behind their 15-person bubbles and 2m rules,
but sending out minions to blame the teaching unions for delaying ft schools

Easy enough to get back to ft in September

  • IF the govt has the guts to face the possible consequences:

just state that SD has been abolished for schools and that all vulnerable staff must return to school or be upaid, even sacked
maybe shielded teachers will be allowed to WFH, teaching shielded pupils.

Could be cases are near-zero then;
if not, could be a disastrous gamble

hence why they prefer to sit tight atm and scapegoat unions
It's the Tory comfort zone

tropafp8 · 18/06/2020 18:34

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ListeningQuietly · 18/06/2020 18:34

BigChoc
Absolutely the UK Govt are hiding and flailing.

The sooner the schools go back
with sensible precautions
the better

But sadly the Whitehall aversion to dealing with councils and LEAs and the academy issue
means that sensible local decision making is not happening Sad

thecatfromjapan · 18/06/2020 18:39

You've nailed it re. Schools, I think, BigChoc.

DGRossetti · 18/06/2020 18:51

an audience with boris johnson

video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1273178890534617088/pu/vid/360x270/oBf8aAM4ZcwAlLE8.mp4

MockersMisguidedByTheScience · 18/06/2020 18:51

So as recently as lunchtime, we were being told the "World-Class" (No longer world-beating) app would be 'delayed.'

In other news, who remembers "Blair Force One," Tony Blair's personal plane at the taxayer's expense that would be a Union-Jack festooned version of the US Version?

It was all Tory Press garbage. The A400 Voyager would be a dual purpose tanker transport for the RAF that would also double as transport for royals and the PM.

....So now, that very plane is to be made over at the taxpayer's expense as BJ's personal plane he could park next to Trumpy and not feel inadequate.

Cue Tory press outrage, or is that reserved for Ed Miliband living in sin and Jeremy Corbyn's coat?

HoneysuckIejasmine · 18/06/2020 18:52

I think schools will be back to normal in September too. Either because cases are so low it's "safe" or because the government will send them back anyway.

My county has only recorded 7 deaths this month and none of them very recently. We need a local management (I know, I know, we said this months ago) to deal with local flare ups. One size never has fitted all.

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2020 18:54

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53098017
Coronavirus: NI schoolchildren to follow 1m social distancing

Social distancing of 1m (just over 3ft) as opposed to 2m (6ft) is "safe and appropriate" for children and young people at school, the Northern Ireland Executive has agreed.

The measure will allow "full classes to attend" school.

That is according to guidance being sent by Education Minister Peter Weir to school principals.

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MockersMisguidedByTheScience · 18/06/2020 18:57

Also note BJ's repetitative accusation that Starmer is unable to say schools should return because he is under the cotrol of the 'Left-Wing Teachers Unions.'

BJ would be the latest in a line of Tory ministers who have had to pay damages to the NUT if he ever repeated this claim, made under parliamentary privilege, outside the house.

The NUT and all the other teaching unions are not and have never been affiliated to the Labour Party.

DGRossetti · 18/06/2020 18:58

The NUT and all the other teaching unions are not and have never been affiliated to the Labour Party.

Facts are so last regime.

OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 18/06/2020 19:07

Spain is talking about 1.5 m distancing in schools and "bubbles" of between 15 and 25 (nothing decided yet). But cases here (in Spain) are much lower than the UK.

SabrinaThwaite · 18/06/2020 19:14

We need a local management (I know, I know, we said this months ago) to deal with local flare ups.

PHE won't let the health modellers at County level do their own modelling tailored to local demographics.

TheABC · 18/06/2020 19:40

PM's Questions are closely watched by the only audience that matters for the time being: the Tory MPs. They are not happy at:
-the Dom debacle
-the direction of Brexit (pick a side), or

  • the pandemic handling.

So watching Johnson flail and flutter his way through the PMQs is just going to add fuel to the fire.

Whether they do anything about it remains to be seen. Johnson's vulnerable to a leadership challenge from next month. My guess is that he is safe for the rest of this year (who would want the job, right now?) and he will be gone after the immediate fallout from Brexit.

MockersMisguidedByTheScience · 18/06/2020 19:52

Would not be at all surprised if Cummings sent his flying monkeys to bump off Dame Vera to keep the headlines free of app crash puns.