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Westminstenders: Just another DEADline

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RedToothBrush · 05/06/2020 10:26

Today is the last scheduled day for talks with the EU.

We have til 30th June to ask for a transition extension. We won't.

That leaves us starring down the barrel of a no deal exit, when we still could be in a covid-19 crisis and the US may be in turmoil given recent events and the coming election...

It's not a pretty picture.

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RedToothBrush · 09/06/2020 11:50

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-andrew-charitable-trust-law-breach-a9556201.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1591699456
Prince Andrew Charitable Trust broke law over payments to trustee

Prince Andrew's Charitable Trust broke a charity law over a payment it made to one of its trustees, the Charity Commission has found.

Oh dear.

It doesn't rain. It only pours.

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DGRossetti · 09/06/2020 12:14

Apropos of nothing, I was tickled to see how quickly Google Maps updated the location of a certain statue ... which suggests a stance on their part ...

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ListeningQuietly · 09/06/2020 12:23

DGR
A lovely thought on that map but sadly not true

Peregrina · 09/06/2020 12:44

- advocate for the standards you want and win an election in the U.K.

Ah yes. I recollect that a certain party did win and did promise the following:

British farmers and fishermen should be able to profit by producing food and fish that are the envy of the world – both for their quality and the high standards to which they were produced.

lead the world in the quality of our food, agriculture and land management

In all of our trade negotiations, we will not compromise on our high environmental protection, animal welfare and food standards.

I will leave that there. Manifesto commitments are a sales pitch and the advice Caveat Emptor applies. Many electors either didn't know this or didn't care. The MPs though, have signed up to this and they should care. It should have led to a rebellion by them, but principles seem to have gone by the board these days and with one exception it hasn't done.

DGRossetti · 09/06/2020 13:08

Good old Nige, predictably full of hypocritical shit as ever.

(Incidentally, I like his qualification of "properly" on delivery of Brexit ...)

Westminstenders: Just another DEADline
MockersGuidedByTheScience · 09/06/2020 13:18

Farage thinking about picking up a rifle has me unfathomably thinking of Clint Eastwood in Dirty Harry.

Do you feel lucky, punk?

LouiseCollins28 · 09/06/2020 13:18

Can on rather old bloke in his Khaki shorts really be called a mob? 😂😂 “they don’t like it up ‘em” comes to mind 😂

MockersGuidedByTheScience · 09/06/2020 13:30

BJ "truly believes we are a much less racist society than we used to be..."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52973338

Since when? Since we were making jokes about piccaninnies with watermelon smiles and complaining about letterboxes and bank-robbers?

DGRossetti · 09/06/2020 13:33

BJ "truly believes we are a much less racist society than we used to be..."

from what I saw on Twitter and FB he had his arse handed to him well and truly.

Peregrina · 09/06/2020 13:54

I think we were moving towards a less racist society, but then progress with the likes of Farage etc. has gone into reverse. It takes ages to build something up, but moments to destroy it.

DGRossetti · 09/06/2020 14:07

I think we were moving towards a less racist society, but then progress with the likes of Farage etc. has gone into reverse.

You know when you are building something, and every so often you have to give the whole thing a firm knock, just to make sure everything is in position so you can continue to build on firm foundations ?

I'd like to think that this is one of those structure-knocking moments which will lead to a firmer future.

I know it's pathetically drippy-hippy-trippy. Maybe it's just me trying to face up to the failure of the past 30 years, for all our hopes. I don't know.

That said, apparently Farage had a bad time on GMB today - pleasingly at the hands of two educated and eloquent women. What a shame.

KenDodd · 09/06/2020 14:09

Peregrina
I agree. And frankly I'm sick of people pretending Brexit was anything other than a racist endeavor and voted for predominantly by racist people.

yoikes · 09/06/2020 14:11

kendodd
Yep.

MockersGuidedByTheScience · 09/06/2020 14:39

Possibly unfair.

Not all the Brexiteers were racists.

But all the racists were Brexiteers.

DGRossetti · 09/06/2020 14:41

According to the Express ! Boris is the worlds least popular leader. Which, given the competition, is quite an achievement.

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1293211/Boris-Johnson-news-latest-poll-coronavirus-leader-lockdown-end

JeSuisPoulet · 09/06/2020 14:42

Looks as though Brexit is becoming one long lesson in Leavers having to "manage their expectations" Grin As long as they are consistently as low as our very British productivity levels I am sure they will manage.

Peregrina · 09/06/2020 14:51

DGR - I had to break a vow not to click on Express links, just to see what they said.

Going back to Louise's position - she doesn't regret her Brexit vote, but will be disappointed if standards are compromised. That's an honest opinion which I respect, even though I can't agree. I don't respect those who swear blind that they knew exactly what they were voting for, and it's all wonderful, when at the Referendum, nothing was defined.

Peregrina · 09/06/2020 14:56

And frankly I'm sick of people pretending Brexit was anything other than a racist endeavor and voted for predominantly by racist people.

Or for the hedge fund managers and the Rees-Moggs of the world, a chance to make lots and lots of money, and if the country goes down the pan, so what?

DGRossetti · 09/06/2020 15:15

I had to break a vow not to click on Express links, just to see what they said.

I just found it interesting that it was the Express of all papers giving Boris a pasting. Are they afraid he's going to ruin their beloved Brexit ?

MockersGuidedByTheScience · 09/06/2020 16:19

Well les Pecheurs of Calais are already planning to blockade the harbour.

Enjoy.

Apileofballyhoo · 09/06/2020 16:27

The US doesn't care about lower food standards having a link to poorer health because health care is a private business. Taxes that pay for Medicare or Medicaid or whatever they call their federal health insurance programs ultimately end up in the pockets of private enterprise. A bit like housing benefit in the UK (and other countries). As long as the NHS is provided by private enterprise too the UK will get to keep it.

DGRossetti · 09/06/2020 16:28

Well les Pecheurs of Calais are already planning to blockade the harbour.

It's interesting how the British are outraged by the tiniest bit of direct action, whereas it's part of the French psyche ...

I wonder what the intersection of people complaining about BLM protests and people who said the Gilet Jaunes had the right idea would look like ? Complete overlap ?

DGRossetti · 09/06/2020 16:35

The US doesn't care about lower food standards having a link to poorer health because health care is a private business. Taxes that pay for Medicare or Medicaid or whatever they call their federal health insurance programs ultimately end up in the pockets of private enterprise. A bit like housing benefit in the UK (and other countries). As long as the NHS is provided by private enterprise too the UK will get to keep it.

It's all about slicing the supply chain into ever smaller segments, each of which can be exploited by the Chums of the Government. Ironically people are conned because it's sold as the most "efficient" way to deliver . But - as the whole UK ventilator farce shows - it's actually the exact opposite.

As with everything that can be plotted on a continuum, there's probably a happy mid point.

Peregrina · 09/06/2020 16:42

You have updated your name again Mockers!

You have a habit of giving cryptic clues. What are Les Pecheurs of Calais up to? It's not on the BBC or The Guardian (yet).

The Guardian is featuring the mess made of the school reopening plans.

DGRossetti · 09/06/2020 16:50

What are Les Pecheurs of Calais up to?

Hmm

planning to blockade the harbour.

Smile

although I admit I looked for a cite too. Then fell down a rabbit hole on Twitter in French Grin

Westminstenders: Just another DEADline