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Westministenders: Reployed back to No Deal Planning

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RedToothBrush · 18/05/2020 22:52

Now Covid-19 is over (yeah I know right) lots of civil servants who were switched from brexit no deal planning to covid-19 planning have been switched back to their original remit.

For some reason this doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

We've also seen yet another doubling down on the EU not being flexible and how they need to make a deal. And lots of rhetoric about being serious about no transiton planning.

Remember we have something of a deadline looming at the end of next month.

So before we are even out of this crisis, the government have lost interest. Today's press conference was an eye opener - Van Tam openly said that the time taken to get test results was too long and wasn't good enough yet and meant track and trace wasnt still operational despite it being such a crucial factor in being able to go into the next phase as planned on 1st June.

Another deadline we won't make - the Manchester Nightgale still has patients and the local authorities in the NW are going mental. So the government is playing more silly buggers over blame and villianising the evil workshy teachers. Noting the government guidance for teachers on how to teacher children at home says fuck all and the guidance on reopening schools makes a Theresa May dog ate my homework style document look positively well thought out, in terms of practicality. (Not even going to touch on the question of whether its safe - the whether its workable one is more important).

I guess that means things are getting back to normal at least.

A recession looms, but workers rights are now fair game and fully in the government cross hairs - as we see from a lack of PPE for the 'heroes' and the attacks on the teachers. As well as the carers who were sold down river. That'll be the ununionised carers...

Taking back control.

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squid4 · 23/05/2020 16:46

Pathetic carcrash that was.

"It's natural to go to your family in difficult times."

Yes. We all wish we could. But we were told not to.

OldLace · 23/05/2020 16:47

Yasss.... Keep it up - even the Torygraph is focusing on it.

Shapps is upset no one is asking about the A66 and his bike vouchers

Here goes the Sun: 'what is different about DC?' '
'What did the PM know and when?'

Shapps: 'this wasn't visiting a holiday home ...

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 23/05/2020 16:52

"It's natural to go to your family in difficult times."
Words of comfort to all those prohibited from seeing their loved ones in times of grief during this. Weaselly wankers the lot of them.

ListeningQuietly · 23/05/2020 16:52

Well that's lockdown ended in time for the sunny weather this weekend ....
Nice one Grant / Michael / Sebastian / whatever you are calling yourself this week

Peregrina · 23/05/2020 17:00

Shapps: 'this wasn't visiting a holiday home ...

But visiting your own nearby empty holiday home is a resigning matter. Making a 250 mile journey, probably stopping at least once, and then meeting other people, some of whom are over 70 and you have been told not to meet - well, that's all hunky dory.

ListeningQuietly · 23/05/2020 17:03

TWO 250 mile journeys ......
he and his family are back in London

DGRossetti · 23/05/2020 17:06

I wonder if there's a plan to whip up a "Well if he can flout lockdown, the so can I flout lockdown" and try to engineer a public backlash to remove the need for the government to ... well govern.

If it's mob rule they want, I'm on my way down. I know quite a bit about the operational issues of the guillotine. I certainly know where to get my hands on a mouton

DGRossetti · 23/05/2020 17:07

So were the police involved. Or were they not ?

Peregrina · 23/05/2020 17:22

Yes, LQ - I nearly said two journeys, although do we know when he returned? As for the Police, if he's told them one story and he's now saying another, I wonder what action they can take if they can prove he lied to them.

HesterThrale · 23/05/2020 17:27

I thought Cummings was supposed to be clever.

twitter.com/Peston/status/1264178461628870658

It is also worth reading the attached, sent to me by a senior Tory. It is about Cummings’s judgement, and the massive viral load he subjected himself to by sitting in a confined space, a car, with his infected spouse Mary Wakefield for five or six hours on the way to...

Sostenueto · 23/05/2020 17:27

Harries got her more than my jobs worth hat on. There is nothing more that people who lost loved ones would have wanted than to see and grieve with their families but they were not allowed to but Cummings can to safeguard his 4 yr old. If his 4 yr old was in a life threatening position that says a lot about their parenting skills. When I first contracted cancer I was 29 years old and single parent to a one yr old and two year old with absolutely no family other than my two babies. I had to continue harsh chemotherapy every other day for six months taking my babies with me. My 2 yr old would hold my sick bag. ( Chemo was not as refined then as is now).The only help I was offered was that my children be took into care. I refused having been bought up in care myself there was no way I was parting from my children. But the Cummings between them could not manage to look after one 4 yr old.. I could not believe that press conference.

DGRossetti · 23/05/2020 17:29

As for the Police, if he's told them one story and he's now saying another, I wonder what action they can take if they can prove he lied to them.

What would happen to any of us ?

Mind you, this could be interesting. For whatever reasons (although I can guess) the police are also in the pissed-off-with-the-Tories camp. (Look at how they aren't following the FCO line on the Harry Dunn case ...). Maybe Cumbria police will follow up ?

Never really understood the point of a police caution in the UK - it's not like we have a constitution to bother with. And you can bet your Gucci builders bag that if you said something incriminating to a policeman - caution or not - it's ending up in court. (Bearing in mind many people have had things they never said end up in court ...). English courts being massive fans of the "end justifies the means" school of law and order.

Peregrina · 23/05/2020 17:33

Why should Cumbria police get involved with County Durham's affairs?

squid4 · 23/05/2020 17:33

God the police HATE the tories, or is that just my mates. They've been stripped as bad as the NHS

Piggywaspushed · 23/05/2020 17:36

The point as I take it, though, is that they were still looking after said 4 year old. They are saying he stayed with them, but in Durham. Which rather begs the question to me of why they went there. I don't believe them one little bit. I think Ceddy stayed in grandma and garndpa's house so that DC and MW could recover in peace...

DGRossetti · 23/05/2020 17:37

Why should Cumbria police get involved with County Durham's affairs?

Neighbourliness ?

Getting my NE counties in a spin - my other discussion at the moment is about waveform attenuation in co-ax cables and the old days of ethernet. I'm sure it's not being entitled to ask for a seconds slack ?

Grin
DGRossetti · 23/05/2020 17:37

Of course Cumbria being in the NW ...

Piggywaspushed · 23/05/2020 17:38
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ListeningQuietly · 23/05/2020 17:39

This Cummings thing has made me angry.

My friend who was widowed on the first day of Lockdown has not been able to go and hug her family and start to grieve (not Covid, she is early 40's)
But well connected rich gits are allowed to drive all over the country with no penalty
AngrySadAngrySadAngrySadAngrySadAngrySadAngrySad

dontcallmelen · 23/05/2020 17:41

SoS 💐 is anyone else just throughly depressed? I really am so much endured by so many people over the last few weeks & yet that slippery no good waste of space fucks off to Durham & defended by the government.

Clavinova · 23/05/2020 17:42

Mary Wakefield's brother Jack lives in Holland Park
So they could have gone to his house...but chose not to...

Newspaper reports are indicating he stayed in a separate house -

"near to but separate from his extended family"

Piggywaspushed · 23/05/2020 17:44

In which case, Clav, he was looking after his child, so why did he need to drive 250 miles to do so?

OldLace · 23/05/2020 17:45

Sostenueto

I hope you don't mind, but I just read out your post to my 12 and 15 yr olds who are sitting next to me on the sofa.
My 12 year old had asked me why I'd been 'squakeing at the TV' when the presser was on. I'd explained about it being wrong that those in power can act one way whilst instructing the rest of us to act another.
They both rolled their eyes at me (I am a single parent and I guess I bore on about politics to them too much at the dinner table!)

I just read them out your post. They get it now.
I am so sorry you went through that.

DGRossetti · 23/05/2020 17:47

Be curious what Farages take on all this is. Not that I really give a shit. But Farage was rather publicly given a spanked bottom for travelling during lockdown and has the platform and motive to shaft Cummings if he so wished.

Or will that be Lord Farage soon enough ?

Piggywaspushed · 23/05/2020 17:52

I am actually massively confused by the cover story nw.

Shapps seemed to be saying he went to Durham and sister and nieces brought him care packages, which ate least fits the story written by his wife that Ceddy was with them (apart from the city ...)

The tweeting ministers are suggesting he was seeking childcare for Ceddy .

So... which is it??