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Brexit

Is the EU falling apart...?

383 replies

Frownette · 05/02/2020 16:54

My mother seems to be convinced it is. She hasn't given a compelling reason.

And someone at the Halifax told her that it was!

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MysteryTripAgain · 10/02/2020 13:03

@LQ

As per the SRT (Statutory Residence Test) to be non UK resident overseas working must span a full financial year (6 April to 5 April the following year) and be continuous under the same contract of employment. Maximum gap is 30 days.

I started new Contract in May 2016, but previous Contract ended December 2015. So I fell beack into the UK system and was considered resident for the tax year 6 April 2016 to 5 Aprl 2017. It was not until 6 April 2018 that I regained non UK resident status.

Hence I was eligible to vote in 2016.

malylis · 10/02/2020 13:08

But more and more people become eligible to vote every day.

The majority for leave was very low. The 35 to 44 grouping was in favour of remaining with a small majority at the time of the referendum. 45 to 54 ever so slightly leave.

It was then 55 plus grouping that voted leave in numbers. Mortality rates and age of majority suggest that already the leave vote is significantly smaller. 4 years on.

MysteryTripAgain · 10/02/2020 13:22

It was then 55 plus grouping that voted leave in numbers. Mortality rates and age of majority suggest that already the leave vote is significantly smaller. 4 years on

That assumes nobody changed their minds.

Life expectancy in UK is;

Men 79

Women 83

So a big chunk of those over 55 in 2016 are still around. Take average life expectancy to be 81 gives 26 years over 55. So it will be 26 years from 2016, which is 2042, before all 55+ have passed on. Maybe longer if life epxectancy continues to increase.

malylis · 10/02/2020 13:24

But the majority was very low. Doesn't take much to switch it round.

MysteryTripAgain · 10/02/2020 13:44

But the majority was very low. Doesn't take much to switch it round

Depends on how the vote is cast. If by referendum then % is key. However, if by election, which is currently FPTP system, then % can mean nothing.

jasjas1973 · 10/02/2020 14:20

Easy to find out who voted Leave... a stupidity test! easily done, Unemployment rates would sink to zero as we recruited all those testers and exam makers! a stupidity tax would cover the costs or increase council tax on the lowest value properties as thats where the crazy brexitiers live.

Forcing everyone to hand over their social media details would be another way of finding these clowns.

As for where these reeducation camps will be?
IF China can build 2000 bed hospitals in a few weeks then Global Britain can build Brexit central on the N.york moors, are we going to be shown up by our main rivals...? you need to be-leave!!!!

Timescales? 6 months de-brexitisation then release, seems to work well with former terrorists.

AdultHumanFemale · 10/02/2020 14:42

I haven't RTFT but a member of my extended family who is ideologically linked to a number of far right / alt right groups in northern Europe Sad has been saying that they're waiting and watching in the wings, seeing how Brexit unfolds, ready to put the shoulder to the door and push for similar referendums in most northern European / Scandinavian countries. And that will definitely be a highly organised, xenophobic, anti-immigrant, curtailing of civil rights, fascist effort.

MysteryTripAgain · 10/02/2020 14:49

@JasJas

Your posts on the screening of voters get worse and only raises more questions;

Easy to find out who voted Leave... a stupidity test! easily done

Remember that about 13 million did not vote at all. How would you identify them so they could be excluded from the test?

Who would define what stupid is for the determination of whether someon had or had not passed the test?

a stupidity tax would cover the costs or increase council tax on the lowest value properties as thats where the crazy brexitiers live

Does that include Jacob Rees-Mogg?

How will unemployed people who voted leave be taxed if they have no income?

Forcing everyone to hand over their social media details would be another way of finding these clowns

Can such data not be deleted as soon as people become aware that a stupidity test is going to become mandatory?

If China can build 2000 bed hospitals in a few weeks then Global Britain can build Brexit central on the N.york moors, are we going to be shown up by our main rivals...? you need to be-leave!!!!

Chinese population is 20 times greater than that of the UK.

London population about 8.7 million. Exactly half the number that voted leave. Think you can build on the N. York moors in 6 months twice as many houses as there are in London?

What about sewerage? Average pooh and pee is 500g and 2,330g per person per day. So the sewerage system would have to handle almost 9 tons of pooh and 9 million gallons of pee per day.

At average sewerage costs of 100 pounds per year per person the sewerage cost would be 4.8 millon per day. For 6 months that would be about 900 million.

Maybe you want to rethink as it does not sound very economical

malylis · 10/02/2020 14:57

i see mystery doesn't get humour either.

MysteryTripAgain · 10/02/2020 15:05

I see mystery doesn't get humour either

Oh, but they do. Jas went for it, by actually answering the previous questions. Wonder if they fall again?

As Mistigri has pointed out twice there are a lot of fallers.

malylis · 10/02/2020 15:08

Jas is not being serious the fact that you have taken an obviously hyperbolic statment designed to be a joke seriously (and will not doubt continue to do so in future) is funny.

You are unknowingly really amusing.

MysteryTripAgain · 10/02/2020 15:14

You are unknowingly really amusing

Must be as you can't resist taking the bait every time.

malylis · 10/02/2020 15:34

Its just funny to watch someone make so many incorrect pronouncements.

MysteryTripAgain · 10/02/2020 15:36

Its just funny to watch someone make so many incorrect pronouncements

Reeled in again.

jasjas1973 · 10/02/2020 16:23

MTA if i answered your absurd comments in any way a serious manner, then yes i'd be as crazy as a crazy cow in a crazy ... i'm sure you get it... maybe not?

I get what your pitch....my Gran used to say "Some people will put the stones to fight"

Unfortunately, MN rules mean we can't always say what we really think, having said that some of the stuff you come out with is quite amusing, so for the entertainment value alone you occasionally do brighten up an otherwise stormy day ........ keep up the good work, i'm sure you will.

ListeningQuietly · 10/02/2020 16:49

Why are you lot still playing MTAs petty games.
Its all circular.
Its not even as good as the Scotland / Ireland bridge

MysteryTripAgain · 10/02/2020 16:49

Reeled again

MysteryTripAgain · 10/02/2020 16:51

@LQ

The Scotland/Ireland bridge is a laugh. Another £20 billion down the drain. If NI reunites with ROI what was the point?

Peregrina · 10/02/2020 18:00

Even assuming that Johnson could get a bridge built between Scotland and N Ireland, what difference would it make? NI would still be in the Customs Union and Single Market?

After all there is now a bridge/tunnel combo between Denmark and Sweden but they are still separate countries.

jasjas1973 · 10/02/2020 19:03

A bridge makes its harder for Scottish or NI independence.

SF doing well in ROI might even form the next ROI govt makes NI unification more likely and the EU stronger.

ListeningQuietly · 10/02/2020 19:13

There will never be a bridge.
FFS the government cannot even sort a fixed link to the Isle of Wight
(across water that is so shallow that folks play cricket on it at low tide)

The NI Scotland Bridge is pure look! a squirrel

Worrieddad72 · 10/02/2020 21:39

Reeled in again.

Perhaps in your tiny mind

Gods sake you still spouting bile over everything?

MysteryTripAgain · 11/02/2020 06:40

Well it sounds very like HS2 is going ahead.

jasjas1973 · 11/02/2020 18:36

What has that got to do with the EU? or do you think it might assist the EU collapsing?

MysteryTripAgain · 11/02/2020 18:41

As BJ has given the go ahead to HS2 what’s to say he won’t do same for the Scotland to Ireland bridge?