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Westministenders: No Australia Don't Have A Deal

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RedToothBrush · 04/02/2020 16:47

Since Friday, far from letting things calm down, Johnson has doubled down stating that if we can't have a Canada Deal (which the EU says wouldn't be equal because we are much closer than Canada geographically) we will go for an Australia Deal.

This is the latest rehash of a managed no deal package up as something else which the EU have already repeatedly said no to.

So we are on track for no deal.

At the same time Johnson has got very excited about American food and how its great. Almost as if he wants no deal wit the EU to force a shitty bad deal with the us through.

Johnson and his chronies have also been trying to undermine journalistic transparency by blocking access to the lobby to some media outlets in a move that makes us look like a tinpot dictatorship. Fortunately there was a mass walk out of journalists but it remains to be seen how long that can be maintained.

Far from being a clean slate to move forward from its already proving that nothing has changed and old divisions are as deep as ever, if not worse...

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DGRossetti · 04/02/2020 16:51

For some reason DS picked up on a FB page "Nicholas Cages Face On Things"

Westministenders: No Australia Don't Have A Deal
BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 04/02/2020 16:54

PMK. Must try and keep up this time.

ListeningQuietly · 04/02/2020 16:56

Slightly OT (thought I'd start early!!!!)
But this was on my linkedin yesterday.
Brexit is just a distraction from the real issues

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Peregrina · 04/02/2020 16:57

I absolutely agree that less than a week on, the old divisions are even worse. Add to this, his antagonism of Scotland.

I think myself he wants No Deal, but he doesn't want the blame for destroying the economy. He might well find that this is out of his hands. We must make this stick to him. His Brexit, he takes the blame. He's trying to control the Brexit narrative by not talking about it, but we haven't shut up, and are not likely to.

AuldAlliance · 04/02/2020 17:03

PMK.
Posted after the best before date on the last thread, sorry.

borntobequiet · 04/02/2020 17:14

PMK from another EU country where I am keeping my head down and pretending to be French (not very successfully).
On a ferry today heard Dutch, Swiss and French people conversing happily in very good English as a lingua franca. What fools we have made of ourselves, throwing away so much for nothing.

prettybird · 04/02/2020 17:18

Chilled out cats are good for stress Wink

I see that a new Panelbase poll has support for Scottish independence at 52%. Haven't looked at the data tables though - I suspect that that headline figure excludes the "Don't know/won't say" Wink

And of course the Scots will be instantly persuaded of the benefits of the Union when BJ begins his £5 million love bombing campaign on Valentine's Day Hmm

Westministenders: No Australia Don't Have A Deal
DGRossetti · 04/02/2020 17:23

PMK from another EU country where I am keeping my head down and pretending to be French (not very successfully).

There's an up and coming comedian - Kae Kurd (who is Kurdish) who tells a funny story about pretending to be Italian to impress girls ... until a potential girlfriend insisted he meet her friends "Italian" boyfriend, and they realise they've both Kurds ...

When I used to visit (British) friends in Paris in the 90s they complained they could never speak French, as Parisians immediately picked up the accent and replied in - excellent - English. Except for a girl from Glasgow. They could pick up the Scots over the English and were more than happy to talk to her in French. It was quite funny in a way.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 04/02/2020 17:26

Pmk. I am making a point of calling it "the Conservative's Brexit" and pointing out how we hold all the cards etc, if they start trying to blame the EU.

yolofish · 04/02/2020 17:31

PMK, with a heavy heart at all the journalists' exclusions and the complete lack of anything approaching common sense in what is loosely known as 'our Govt'.

DGRossetti · 04/02/2020 17:31

I am making a point of calling it "the Conservative's Brexit" and pointing out how we hold all the cards etc, if they start trying to blame the EU.

At least the memory of the Internet means that any "unforeseen" problems can immediately be shown up to be "foreseen but dismissed" when and if (or if and when if you're still clinging to hope) they arise. Not that the UKs pisspoor excuse for a critical media would do anything about it.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 04/02/2020 17:35

Yes, the majority of journalists are nothing of the sort these days.

As an ex teacher, I seethe when I hear "record school funding" claims and the journalist doesn't immediately ask about funding per pupil. I mean, FFS, Journalism 101, surely?

DGRossetti · 04/02/2020 17:43

As an ex teacher, I seethe when I hear "record school funding" claims and the journalist doesn't immediately ask about funding per pupil. I mean, FFS, Journalism 101, surely?

A journalists job appears to be to simply repeat what they are told - possibly slightly slower and with fewer big words for the hard of thinking. Questions ? You want questions go on Mastermind.

Mockersisrightasusual · 04/02/2020 17:49

Raincoat, trilby with press card in hatband, notebook with little stubby pencil all gone. Sit at your desk and Google everything.

lonelyplanetmum · 04/02/2020 17:54

PMK with a wish to Born for a lovely break.

I was supposed to be taking the kids on a last minute mini break to Lisbon in half term with friends who are a Chinese/English family. She just cancelled on me because she says she can't face the risk of getting off a plane and people being rude in front of her DC.

She said it's happening to loads of her UK based friends and she just doesn't want to leave the house.

BigChocFrenzy · 04/02/2020 17:56

Thanks, red 💐

I heard at the gym that German TV news reported BJ's Australian fantasy with some mirth

  • but said it meant the EU should prepare for No Deal in January

I've been asked before what our PM is thinking of, but can only reply that he doesn't do thinking

Frankiestein402 · 04/02/2020 17:59

Sit at your desk and Google everything.
That's the best of them - the majority cut and paste press releases.

Mockersisrightasusual · 04/02/2020 18:02

There was a time when "cut and paste" meant exactly that, in the days when "making-up the front page" was not what it means today.

Motheroffourdragons · 04/02/2020 18:08

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Mockersisrightasusual · 04/02/2020 18:12

If only the Brexit Cat weren't out of the bag

ContinuityError · 04/02/2020 18:14

we hold all the cards etc

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Mistigri · 04/02/2020 18:26

That tweet (it's quite old) is an absolute solid gold classic.

Mistigri · 04/02/2020 18:29

Also, you know they are worried when the house astroturfer is posting over 150 messages a day Wink

ListeningQuietly · 04/02/2020 18:30

PMK on behalf of ItisIleclerc who wishes us all the best from la Belle France and says :

What the leavers seem to have omitted is that if the UK MEPs had lobbied a bit harder (or even turned up in some cases) then armed with decent constructive policies the direction taken by the EU could have been more to the UK's liking.
Well, France, Germany and the others near the top of the game managed it and both can be pretty pragmatic if there is a good idea being proposed.
Of course the UK's permanent secretary (forgot name now) said that the UK has been simply disruptive as a 'policy' for the last 15 years or so

TheABC · 04/02/2020 18:33

I am beginning to wonder if Johnson secretly wants to dismantle the conservative party. Because breaking up the union and causing an epic recession from a shitty deal after 10 years of austerity should do it. Plus the delights of a broken NHS to come...

Not everyone is over 60, living comfortably on a pension and has health insurance in place.

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