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Westminstenders: War and Weirdos

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RedToothBrush · 03/01/2020 21:34

With weirdos set to run No10 and Trump seemingly having started a new war in the Middle East, 2020 already looks set to be a cracking year.

To start off your year, it turns out that chinese curse about interesting times is actually a fallacy...

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_you_live_in_interesting_times

Happy New Year.

May we make 2030...

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TatianaLarina · 08/01/2020 15:59

Also alternatives to Dover are limited. Most rival ferry ports can’t handle vessels of the same size, and all involve longer sea crossings than the 1.5 hours Dover-Calais.

The Channel Tunnel which connects to Folkestone, might also suffer disruption in a hard Brexit, as may the ro-ro ports in Liverpool and Holyhead.

DGRossetti · 08/01/2020 15:59

Can't we just BeLeave the radioisotopes into having longer half-lives?

Using the same science that prevents raped women having babies ?

ListeningQuietly · 08/01/2020 16:00

Songs
In the first year after Brexit is delivered it will poo and shout and make no sense but keep us awake at night

In the second year after Brexit is delivered it will toddle around having tantrums and still piss on the floor sometimes

etc

until it breaks up with its girlfriend and moves home with a pile of crap aged 30
Grin

DGRossetti · 08/01/2020 16:00

Btw are you not aware how much more expensive it would be to fly all our isotopes rather than transport by road?

but I saw a programme that said drones are the future ...

Mockers2020Vision · 08/01/2020 16:03

And we shall be able to import loads of stuff from the EU via the bridge between Scotland and NI.

TheElementsSong · 08/01/2020 16:06

but I saw a programme that said drones are the future ...

Or, just BeLeave. And think positive thoughts.

Failing that, C&P stuff that you've rapidly Googled. That has just the same effect as BeLeaving.

Or failing that, post something you heard from your mate, who is in that golden sweet spot between being vaguely and tangentially connected to the topic at hand, whilst importantly not being (spit) and actual expert.

DGRossetti · 08/01/2020 16:12

Thanks TheElementsSong for a guide to the future.

Incidentally, we'll have to get used to a 342/251 split in HoC votes for the future.

ListeningQuietly · 08/01/2020 16:13

And we shall be able to import loads of stuff from the EU via the bridge between Scotland and NI.
www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/landbridge
Wink

Mockers2020Vision · 08/01/2020 16:16

Someone's Satnav said fatsest route from Plymouth to London was via Roscoff ferry, autoroute and Chunnel.

DGRossetti · 08/01/2020 16:17

If we want to waste time talking about bridges between Scotland and NI, the elephant in the room will be the required unification of Ireland as a precondition. Otherwise all the UK would be doing is building the biggest terrorist target in history that - with all respect to the victims - would make 9/11 look like a tea party.

That's if we don't manage to blow it up ourselves given how much high explosives were casually stashed there.

Mockers2020Vision · 08/01/2020 16:28

Crossrail three years late and triple the budget.

HS2 years late and already double the budget.

Bridge to NI? What could possibly go wrong?

BercowsFlamingoFlownSouth · 08/01/2020 17:11

Can anyone explain the significance of today's NI annes be the vote please? Apologies if I've missed the discussion on it. I'm really out of the loop these days.

BercowsFlamingoFlownSouth · 08/01/2020 17:19

Amendment that should say. Stupid phone.

Mistigri · 08/01/2020 17:32

A bridge across a deep maritime trench used as a WW2 munitions dump. Great idea!

DGRossetti · 08/01/2020 17:38

A bridge across a deep maritime trench used as a WW2 munitions dump. Great idea!

China could do it in two years, I reckon. You only have to see the speed they're putting bridges up in China. And tunnels.

I'd be curious to know the last significant UK infrastructure project which was successfully delivered on time and in budget ? The first Severn Bridge ?

As a sometime project manager, my mantra was "On time. On budget. Works. Pick any two."

There's also the aircraft industry ... which has a similar maxim. An aircraft has four dimensions ... height, breadth, length and politics (originally about the TSR-2)

ListeningQuietly · 08/01/2020 17:47

I have to agree with mistigri on this .... the munitions in that trench are a definite unknown unknown

ListeningQuietly · 08/01/2020 17:52

When your satnav cannot see the ferry in front of you Wink

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DGRossetti · 08/01/2020 17:56

I have to agree with mistigri on this .... the munitions in that trench are a definite unknown unknown

I wasn't disagreeing ... I did say "if we want to waste time ..." Grin

The whole idea is a non starter for purely non technical reasons that any primary school child could grasp in about 5 minutes.

But we already know how remarkably dense Brexiteers still are. Possibly due to some sort of nuclear reaction in their nuclei causing atomic weight to increase ? I don't know (and they certainly won't). So that bridge is going to be resurrected more times than Our Good Lord in the coming years.

There will be a bridge between Italy and Sicily (which is more my interest) long before first turf of the ScotRish bridge is cut.

ListeningQuietly · 08/01/2020 18:00

DGR
But .... But ..... the Giants Causeway is on both sides .... and Farage is an intellectual giant ..... we just have to beleave

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Mockers2020Vision · 08/01/2020 18:21

Just a mile across to the Isle of Wight, but too difficult, apparently.

ListeningQuietly · 08/01/2020 18:26

Mockers
Ah but the IoW has the teeny tiny issue of the prisoners (the MoJ will never allow a fixed link)
But the Koan will work before a bridge over the Solent is built Grin

Clavinova · 08/01/2020 18:27

aargh - went out for 5 hours leaving my phone charging in the lounge - how did I cope without a mobile phone.

TatianaLarina
I don’t have a stockpile.
But what will you eat?

Short notice as needed air freight is not enough, to guarantee supply you’d need a long term supply infrastructure by air. (The reason this is not being planned is because it’s far too expensive).

Update from Royal College of Radiologists Oct 2019:

"(week commencing 21st October) all imported radioisotopes destined for UK hospitals should be entering the UK by air."

In addition:

"Government has announced it has secured express freight capacity to be used in case of an emergency, if there is an unexpected delay to a scheduled radioisotope airfreight shipment."

"We are grateful for the additional contingency, and have been informed that express route testing is now ongoing."

Btw are you not aware how much more expensive it would be to fly all our isotopes rather than transport by road?

Yes - they are worried about the extra cost;

"Through industry intelligence we have been informed costs to radiopharmacies could potentially rise by up to 30 per cent as suppliers’ overheads have increased as they put contingency transport and supply measures in place. We will be monitoring the situation, and the BNMS is surveying radiopharmacy staff to gauge any issues with costs and delays."

Some more info from here (also Oct) - can't link - you will have to search 'Brexit' - first presentation listed:

Presentation John Buscombe, President British Nuclear Medicine Society:

You can tell he's not a fan of Brexit -

"This could change by the time I finish speaking".
• At present most “experts” say there will be a no-deal
Brexit on 31st October 2019.
• We will then enter the Unicorn laden uplands of
Boris Johnson or the collapsing economy of the
remainers...

"What has been done"
• Planes can fly between UK and EU
• Ships can sail between UK and EU
• UK has signed agreements to legally import medical
radioisotopes from EU, Australia, South Africa and
USA
• Practice run in March 2019 worked well
• Only 1 delayed delivery reported from Glasgow and
that came from USA.

"Though cost of radiopharms will not rise as contracted"
• Cost of deliveries will go up
– Paperwork
– Air travel
• Increase 13-30% per consignment
• NHSEng reduces tariff by 10%

www.bnms.org.uk/

mrslaughan · 08/01/2020 18:46

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/government-journalists-boris-johnson-election-commons-downing-street-a9269826.html

I think there were many in this thread that predicted this....