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Brexit

Any other remainers planning to leave?

254 replies

BananaBlaps · 20/12/2019 15:05

We’re lucky as DH can apply for Australian citizenship. Feeling so angry about the state of the county upping sticks seems like an extreme but satisfying plan!

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Miljea · 29/12/2019 11:11

DH and I were planning on buying a villa in Spain for retirement, which we most likely won't be doing now due to the uncertainties of Brexit and how it would leave us residency and healthcare-wise.

The DSs are uni age, we are planning to see DS2 through, then consider retirement or semi- retirement. Unfortunately we feel we are too old (late 50s) to 'see how it goes', re Brexit, and certainly do not have the '50 years' the likes of JRM predicts the positives of Brexit will take to manifest themselves.

Brexit will come at a very bad time for our DSs, as they set off out into the adult world.

So we plan on all of us taking our cash, my NHS professional healthcare experience and their degrees- (back) to Australia.

4 years ago this would not have occurred to us; now it seems like common sense.

Parker231 · 29/12/2019 11:24

@Trewser - they haven’t had student loans. DD is doing a placement next term with the EU and hopes to work there or with the UN as a translator and DS is interviewing for a graduate role with an engineering company in Singapore but is considering doing his masters first.

lilgreen · 29/12/2019 11:25

Wouldn’t be heading for Oz if you feel that way!Hmm

lilgreen · 29/12/2019 11:28

I have dual nationality with Republic of Ireland but not enough work there.

BrokenLogs · 29/12/2019 12:07

@lilgreen 🙄

lilgreen · 29/12/2019 12:39

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elmosducks · 29/12/2019 17:04

I'm with you @brittanyfairies. I have no interest in the NE at all now, nor does DH. Barring a family emergency, we have no plans to return, DH doesn't even want to visit at the moment

Shockers · 29/12/2019 17:11

I’m learning Portuguese.

Yaralie · 29/12/2019 20:47

Half my family are about to go to another EU country, possibly for good. British graduates with good work experience and transferable skills are much in demand and they've had job offers from three EU countries.

Torchlightt · 29/12/2019 22:51

Yaralie - can I ask what kind of work? I'm hoping dd may be able to emigrate when she's older, but don't know what kind of work is sufficiently in demand.

Yaralie · 30/12/2019 07:10

It is quite specialist tecnnical IT work

Pupsiecola · 30/12/2019 09:07

My DH works in IT for a huge US company. We could go to any number of countries including the US (east or west coast), Canada and Australia. It's so tempting but we aren't free from the DC's education yet (first year of A Levels/first year of GCSEs). DH occasionally thinks of changing jobs but we want to keep the door open to am international move. I don't really fancy the US, what with Trump and guns. Canada probably looking list likely. Never been to Oz but would like to visit.

Peregrina · 30/12/2019 09:53

In the cases of my family members who have gone abroad - IT, Engineering and teaching. Medical careers also pretty portable.

Parker231 · 30/12/2019 10:07

Nurses are now getting offers to work overseas as soon as they qualify - good salary and excellent working conditions.

Peregrina · 30/12/2019 10:15

Yet Johnson expects to attract nursing staff from overseas - which he might do, but it won't be from Australia and NZ - more likely to be the Philippines. This is OK by me, but I am not sure it's OK by his voters.

Parker231 · 30/12/2019 10:26

Sorry my earlier post was badly worded - UK newly qualified nurses are getting offers from US, Canada, South Africa, Caribbean, Australia and New Zealand. Being a nurse gives excellent opportunities outside of the UK.

Danetobe · 30/12/2019 10:31

Denmark is after British/NHS nurses. £65,000 average salary.

lilgreen · 30/12/2019 11:10

Dont think many non Danish speaking nurses will be doing that.

Peregrina · 30/12/2019 11:32

I know someone who took a Lab Technician's job in a hospital in Denmark - it was OK to communicate with the medical staff in English but she found that she needed to learn Danish to communicate with the patients.

Danetobe · 30/12/2019 11:33

Don't need many - Denmark is a small country. FWIW lots of HCPs don't speak danish, it would make recruiting a total mare and the population is just not big enough to support the health service. It's could be an option for the person who asked what their kid could do as a career option.

Danetobe · 30/12/2019 11:43

Also it is perfectly possible for British people to learn another language or at least open themselves to the possibility that they should try. It's hardly splitting the atom 😏

Cruddles · 30/12/2019 12:13

I'm an Australian (and now British citizen), my wife and children are British but could obviously live in Australia through me. We spent a few weeks in Australia earlier this year, during the federal election. My wife got to see that Australian politics is as bad as British politics. If you are leaving the UK to move to Australia because of the politics then it's no better.

I don't want to live back in Australia, but at least I know if things really go to poo for my wife and I then it's an option, so I get some comfort from that. But I love the UK and would rather bring my family up here, even as a remain voter.

chatongris · 30/12/2019 12:15

On the subject of medical jobs and languages, I have a French friend whose two daughters are both studying medicine in Lithuania. The course is in English, but they have had to learn Lithuanian for patient contact purposes. They are both French-German bilingual, so their studies and their hospital work are taking place in their third and fourth languages respectively. There is no reason why Britons can't do this, except that we somehow manage to persuade our young people that languages are "difficult".

Danetobe · 30/12/2019 13:04

I wouldn't move to or from anywhere only because the countries politics suited my preference.

In lots of EU countries the uni fees are cheaper than UK or free. The education may or may not be better. But it's a chance to look at the world in a different light and I believe that if you learn another language it's like having a different world opened to you. You don't have to be fluent I will never be fluent in Danish and I don't particularly mind. I can read books, magazines watch TV and see the same things with new eyes.

I had a (monolingual) Brit friend who went to Poland to study medicine, they gave the students the first 3 years to learn conversational polish and he managed just fine. He loved it, don't know where he is now.

There are lots of jobs available for only English speakers all over the EU (stem subjects esp.) though I can't imagine many for people who have no desire to learn the local lingo.

jasjas1973 · 30/12/2019 22:44

Nurses are now getting offers to work overseas as soon as they qualify - good salary and excellent working conditions

My DD has been offered a HCP job, (not nursing) in Australia, she is in her 2nd year, few on her course have any intention of working in the NHS, she even had a med company do a presentation on working in the private sector, the salaries were eye watering compared to NHS.
Previously, many would have felt duty bound to stay in NHS but now with 50k of debt, they do not.

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