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Westminsterenders: Talent or Colour

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FishesaPlenty · 06/12/2019 16:49

RTB and BCF are presumably busy with more important things. I'm clearly not qualified to start a Westminsterenders thread - but somebody has to take control and collect the waifs and strays.

The party of no talent want to introduce no colour into our lives.

6 days to the election.

Johnson is still a liar.

Corbyn is still apparently loved by Labour members and hated by everyone else.

Swinson is still a charming PTA chair.

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ListeningQuietly · 07/12/2019 18:10

Childish but rather wonderful

ListeningQuietly · 07/12/2019 18:12

squid4
You can go and stay in the rewilding place Smile
knepp.co.uk/glamping-camping-safaris

thecatfromjapan · 07/12/2019 18:12

Have you lot seen this?

I despair. I really do.

Westminsterenders: Talent or Colour
HesterThrale · 07/12/2019 18:12

@chomalungma
60% currently say they are 100% certain to vote
That figure is still depressing.
How do you get people to vote?

I agree.

Time to be assertive. Remind student DCs to post their postal votes now, if they're doing them.

Your postal vote needs to be with your local authority by 10pm on polling day to be counted.
If you can't post your postal vote pack in time, you can take it your polling station or to your local authority on polling day.

N Ireland is different - you can't hand it in at your polling station.

www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/voter/voting-person-post-or-proxy/voting-post

BestIsWest · 07/12/2019 18:14

I am just watching the Lone Wolf documentary. Stunning. We were on Vancouver Island last year. Beautiful place.

dreichXmas · 07/12/2019 18:15

@UltimateFoole I would point in the direction of John Major.
Or highlight the article on bbc website that current Conservative funding all coming from overseas.
We are letting others run the country with the Tories.

NHS might be worth a punt.

squid4 · 07/12/2019 18:16

Sorry, 10 national parks
labour.org.uk/press/labour-announces-plans-for-ten-new-national-parks-in-england/

@ListeningQuietly ahh!! Maybe one day I will!

derxa · 07/12/2019 18:19

I read an amazing book about a rewilding area in the southeast which after about a decade had the most amazing proliferation of wildlife, the author said when she left home now she was gobsmacked by the "silence" of the countryside compared to her home. Gave me proper chills. Totally achieveable. Also, there was something scientific to do with the soil which meant rewilding it made it a huge carbon capture area.
That's fine if you're an aristocrat with 1400 hectares.

ListeningQuietly · 07/12/2019 18:19

Ultimate
Also point out that Labour's tax hike is only for those on over £80k

and if they are lucky enough to earn £82k, they would pay an extra £8.33 a month (less than two teas and a cake each at a cafe)
calculate.forlabour.com/

squid4 · 07/12/2019 18:21

@derxa They were farmers who were running at a loss year after year and applied for a grant to do it in 2000

I think from previous comments you are a farmer so I humbly acept you may know far more than me about it

ListeningQuietly · 07/12/2019 18:22

derxa
Those Sussex people are indeed a bit odd
BUT
There is a lot of poor farmland that is only kept going by EU subsidies.
If the sheep were taken off it and native trees planted, the climate would benefit, the environment would benefit, the taxpayer would benefit etc etc

It strikes me as mad that farmers in the south find it economic to plant solar panels rather than crops

squid4 · 07/12/2019 18:22

Wilding -Isabella Tree is the book
The idea of having that much land is pretty alien to me, I am a city kid!

QueenMabby · 07/12/2019 18:23

Heading back to catch up (it’s been a busy few days). Here’s some more Boris-bashing. 😂😂

squid4 · 07/12/2019 18:33

As to how to get the vote out, I'm not a member or anything, but momentum seem pretty on this... they are asking people to take a day off work and are giving free coach tickets to those who can't afford it to get to their nearest marginal

My boyfriend is going to do it or something similar and he is not a labour or momentum member, people feel very strongly about this election

It feels like none of this ground work is being reported? Is it not thought to make a difference? How does the tory campaign compare?

squid4 · 07/12/2019 18:36

This is my life. Every night now, pretty much.

twitter.com/SoniaAdesara/status/1203243581676425217

catitude · 07/12/2019 18:42

So in our family we have lost 1 tory voter (FIL) who is no longer with us and gained 1 lab voter, DD, who is coming home from uni to vote, as her vote will have more effect here than uni which has lab at 80% vs cons here at 50%. Just one family so vote slowly shifting.

derxa · 07/12/2019 18:45

www.farminguk.com/news/uk-sheep-farming-wrongly-blamed-for-climate-change_51944.html
www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/achieving-net-zero-meeting-the-climate-change-challenge/

I'll leave a couple of (biased I'm sure) links instead of spewing paragraphs of bile and outrage. Grin
The Guardian are forever promoting Isabella Tree and George Monbiot as the gurus of what should happen in farming.

squid4 · 07/12/2019 18:56

Thanks for the links derxa

I certainly did not mean to imply I blame farmers for climate change! I found the book fascinating as to how quickly it was possible to get real biodiversity back

Does it have to be farmland that is rewilded? I can't tell where exactly they are suggesting the sites are. Knepp was running at a loss according to the book and were keen - I don't think anyone is suggesting forcibly shutting down farms!?? (correct me if I'm wrong!)

Maybe there are 10 aristocrats in the UK who would do it!!

UltimateFoole · 07/12/2019 18:56

The thing is - bless my father - he will vote on principle, never on self interest. 100 per cent.

Also his health is amazing Grin And he has a good pension and is happy to pay for his own social care - although would ideally prefer for that to be something available to everyone. He's basically of a generation where he doesn't understand that things have changed out of his recognition.

My instinct is to say that letting the Tories in will ruin his grandchildren's future and that if they get in I will work to get my DH and children into a position where we always have the option to emigrate from UK. He adores his grandchildren (my children, pre-school age) but I feel guilty about guilt tripping him. How can I get across the urgency of the situation without sounding insane?

Answers on a postcard please.

squid4 · 07/12/2019 18:57

that second link sounds like it has goals/methods v similar to labour manifesto - but again, I am a doctor not a farmer!

longtimelurkerhelen · 07/12/2019 18:58

If ya starving, just get a payday loan, plebs. Wink

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1203381458456498176

thecatfromjapan · 07/12/2019 19:01

Say that. It's not guilt-tripping, it's true.

And if it does happen, and you do emigrate, it'll always be something you feel guilty about.

I still think he's not going to cope with 5 years of Tories.

And climate change matters. That's about people voting to protect the world we bequeath our children.

As a generation over-represented in elections, we kind of owe it to the young kings to represent their interests when it comes to voting for stuff that has effects 20, 30 years later.

Alsohuman · 07/12/2019 19:03

Unfortunately Owen Jones has blocked me. Has anyone retweeted it @longtimelurkerhelen?

JustAnotherPoster00 · 07/12/2019 19:06

twitter.com/i/status/1203377093981212672

longtimelurkerhelen · 07/12/2019 19:07

Grin what did you do to get blocked @Alsohuman?

Try this one

twitter.com/PhilipColbourn/status/1203389764839317504