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Westminstenders: 10 day count down

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RedToothBrush · 03/12/2019 17:19

10 days to go...

... Wake me up when the shit show is over.

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Motheroffourdragons · 04/12/2019 07:44

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CanIHaveADrink · 04/12/2019 07:49

lonely interesting article.

I like the idea that it’s essential to teach children ‘it’s us in the U.K. and them, over there, in Europe’ because I very much feel that this feeling has crossed the Chanel and is felt in ‘—mainland Europe—’ too

thecatfromjapan · 04/12/2019 08:08

This is an amazing article/recount of a a conversation by a Kent headteacher.

It covers issues arising from child/family poverty as they impact on education.

Points to note: dentists and opticians and nurses/doctors used to routinely visit schools (which will probably surprise some of the younger members on this thread) - they don't any more, and this matters for the poorest.

(Sex) Trafficking disproportionately affects poorer children (mainly girls) - something our 'woke' friends tend to overlook.

Deprivation and pressure in social inclusion is a major factor in gangs, grooming and county lines. These things can't be tackled without investment in the public sector.

It's insane that schools are being expected to deal with all of this.

Stinkyeddie · 04/12/2019 08:17

I live in a leafy rural village. It is percieved as very affluent.

Our secondary school has had kids from county lines projects sent to it, made PREVENT referrals and deals with serious cases of abuse and neglect.

Add to that the cyber bullying, underage sex and drugs issues.

People just don't have a clue.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 04/12/2019 08:17

BBC Newsnight
@BBCNewsnight
· 13h
We took a closer look at p48 of the Tory manifesto...

@maitlis: Is this a shifting away from a legal framework, to a political framework?

@LordCFalconer: It is... so if Mr Johnson becomes PM again, he won't be restrained by the courts from acting unlawfully

#Newsnight | #GE19

twitter.com/i/status/1201933751611203584

mybrainhurtsalot · 04/12/2019 08:19

thecat thanks for sharing. The little snippet about the boiler and the gov choice to only invest in good schools is pretty horrifying, especially when the criteria for what constitutes a good or outstanding school are so clearly skewed.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 04/12/2019 08:34

www.theguardian.com/society/2019/dec/04/food-bank-northampton-people-abandoned-by-state?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

A year in the life of a food bank: ‘People who come here have been abandoned’

Natalie Bloomer visited the Weston Favell scheme in Northampton every month for a year. Here is her diary

thecatfromjapan · 04/12/2019 08:38

Absolutely, mybrainhurtsalot.

It's spot on - and a devastating insight into what I'm seeing as a supply teacher.

Cuts are creating a gulf between state schools. As a rule of thumb, schools that have intakes that already face challenges are having more challenges loaded on to them.

When there is decent funding, those gaps disappear.

prettybird · 04/12/2019 08:40

By definition, the Government only wants to support the "above average" schools. Hmm

Remember Gove telling the Education Select Connittee that he wanted all schools to be "above average" Confused

And this is how they make policy Angry

QueenOfThorns · 04/12/2019 09:07

I’m sitting in an airport waiting for a flight. The choice of free newspapers here comprises The Sun and The Times Sad

I’m losing hope now, how can people resist the drip drip drip of this poison? I suppose I should be grateful that it’s not the Fail.

Icantreachthepretzels · 04/12/2019 09:36

I haven't done my percentages yet but we are in a minority folks, the majority of the country would have a high Tory percentage.

And yet on the English and National result pie charts from the site bellabelly posted it showed that almost 75% of people preferred labour, green and L.D policies. (It was a slightly smaller % in national than English because Plaid and SNP took a slither of pie). Over 100 000 people had answered the questions so it's as good a poll as any of them.

We are very much not a majority. We are, in fact, a great stonking majority. It's just the left/ centre have more credible options than the right/far right - and in FPTP that means the 25% get to dictate to the rest of us.

Which is why it's so important that this time we vote tactically, vote clever. Because we should hold the balance of power in parliament - we are the many.
I'm going to keep posting this until the polls close:
comparethetacticals.com/
get a tory out!

Icantreachthepretzels · 04/12/2019 09:37

That should say we are very much not a minority

mrslaughan · 04/12/2019 09:46

@prettybird - which is why the Grammar schools in our area give me the rage......

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 04/12/2019 09:47

Icantreachthepretzels
We are very much not a majority. We are, in fact, a great stonking majority. It's just the left/ centre have more credible options than the right/far right - and in FPTP that means the 25% get to dictate to the rest of us.

In the referendum, 27% of this country got to dictate to the rest of us -- and not just the rest of the British, come to think of it, but the population of the whole EU as well. 17,410,742 dictating to 513,480,000 or so.

stripeypillowcase · 04/12/2019 09:56

wrt newspapers
many, many people's only source of news are the headlines. at news agents, petrol stations, supermarkets, those 'free' papers on public transport...

Icantreachthepretzels · 04/12/2019 09:58

So it's super double extra important that we game the system and make it work for us!!!! clever voting. Heads not hearts.

an incentive to vote tactically - young people guessing the cost of american health care:
twitter.com/MarieAnnUK/status/1202098636169109504

dontcallmelen · 04/12/2019 10:02

Just I saw that on news night, frightening also did anyone else see the segment about the huge rise in the use of released on investigation instead of being bailed, they showed a mother who’s daughter had been killed by her partner, as the police had given him his keys back to the martial house (they had to as no bail conditions imposed) it was horrific seeing that poor woman so distressed, apparently two women are murdered every week due to DV & that since 2010 forty four thousand police/staff have been cut.

DGRossetti · 04/12/2019 10:10

In a metaphor for life, a Tory councillor spends 45 minutes trapped in a blind alley rather than change course after trying to escape a critical crowd ...

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/03/no-great-escape-tory-scales-fence-and-bins-to-exit-climate-hustings-lewes

theguardian.com
No great escape: Tory scales bins and fence to exit climate hustings
Simon Murphy
4-5 minutes

It is a common dilemma for any hard-bitten politician faced with a hostile crowd: how best to make a sharp exit to avoid embarrassment?

For one 63-year-old Tory councillor confronted with a less than receptive audience during a climate crisis debate the answer was to clamber over some bins and scale a fence.

Nancy Bikson was a last-minute replacement for the Conservative prospective MP Maria Caulfield, who was too “busy” to attend climate hustings for candidates in the key marginal seat of Lewes, East Sussex, at a school on Monday evening.

Explaining that she was afforded little time to prepare for the event organised by local groups, including a branch of Extinction Rebellion, Bikson said she would not be sticking around for questions after making a short speech. She attracted groans from the crowd, with one man heckling her before she even began speaking, asking: “Why don’t you go now?”

Bikson said she cared deeply about the environment and that she “did her bit” but concluded, to further groans: “It’s all about us, there is no such thing as government. Government is just people.”

Though she eventually gained polite applause, Bikson left the stage after other candidates made speeches and the event was opened to questions from the audience.

However, when she left via the fire escape she found herself outside in a dead end as the school gates were locked. Rather than trudging back through the packed hall to get out, she pondered her predicament for up to 45 minutes before opting to climb over the fence.

Bikson’s great escape would have stayed secret were it not for a 13-year-old girl who saw the incident at Priory school.

The teenager, who did not wish to be named, said: “I left about an hour early and about half an hour after she [Bikson] left the stage. I came outside and I was about to cycle off and she was behind the gate next to our school canteen which was locked and said, ‘excuse me, can you help me?’ She sounded quite desperate. I said the only way back out is through the auditorium and she said she didn’t want to go back through the auditorium because of everyone. She said ‘they all despise me … and they don’t want me to go back in there’.”

Explaining that she felt sorry for the stranded politician, the teenager added: “I went back into the canteen to try and open the door from the inside [allowing her a route of escape] but it was locked. Then I got a caretaker. I said a caretaker is coming but she said, ‘don’t worry, I’ll just climb over the gate’. And she got up on the school bins and climbed over the gate. She’d been out there for a while.”

After hearing the tale, the schoolgirl’s mother, who runs a business managing composers, brought the councillor’s ordeal to a wider audience, posting on Facebook: “Lewes Tory MP Maria Caulfield failed to show for tonight’s climate hustings. Her last-minute replacement left the hall before the questions, having first explained that she knew nothing about climate or the environment.

“She was spotted by my daughter 45 minutes later still trying to find her way off the premises without having to go back through the hall. She ended up climbing the fence via the bins. Ignominious.”

Bikson apparently admitted her actions later, telling the Evening Standard on Tuesday “It was only because there wasn’t any other way and I didn’t want to disrupt everybody. It was either that or sit outside for a couple of hours.”

But when the Guardian rang to get her version of events she was tight-lipped, replying: “I can neither confirm nor deny, thank you.”

Lewes was previously held by the former Liberal Democrat minister Norman Baker for nearly two decades before being won by Brexiter Caufield in 2015. But the Conservatives only have a majority of just over 5,000, meaning the constituency, which narrowly voted remain during the EU referendum, is a top target for the Lib Dems.

DGRossetti · 04/12/2019 10:12

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Icantreachthepretzels · 04/12/2019 10:25

Very strong speech here on the destruction caused by the tory govt.

twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1201992553995878400

please vote wisely!

Peregrina · 04/12/2019 10:25

I gather that Tory candidates avoiding election hustings is not uncommon - as though they have been told to. How will it affect people who were wavering and might have voted for them? I hope it persuades them that if the Tories can't be bothered, they are not worth a vote.

Icantreachthepretzels · 04/12/2019 10:29

Hugh Grant will be in Chingford today campaigning for labour candidate Faiza Shaheen against the odious Ian Duncan Smith. I really hope the good people of Chingford listen to him. He's just a boy - standing in front of a crowd - asking them not to vote tory.

DGRossetti · 04/12/2019 10:30

Hugh Grant will be in Chingford today campaigning for labour candidate Faiza Shaheen against the odious Ian Duncan Smith. I really hope the good people of Chingford listen to him. He's just a boy - standing in front of a crowd - asking them not to vote tory.

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Icantreachthepretzels · 04/12/2019 10:37

Good for Hugh! and his dad. (can't help but notice they've rather kindly used a couple-of-years-out-of-date picture for the ad Grin)