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Westminstenders: 10 day count down

999 replies

RedToothBrush · 03/12/2019 17:19

10 days to go...

... Wake me up when the shit show is over.

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JustAnotherPoster00 · 05/12/2019 09:59

Or, in 2019 see if there are ways to reduce the need to travel to begin with ?

Which free high quality broadband could help those that can/would work from home but poor internet may restrict that especially in the rural communities

JustAnotherPoster00 · 05/12/2019 10:09

Grin Grin

Emilia Mansfield 💙
@krankyvalli
· 9h
Yet another photo emerges of Corbyn with a well-known terrorist. “Robin Hood” preached the politics of envy and hated the wealth creators of this fine land, waging a violent guerilla war against the wealthy. twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1202257754745786368

DGRossetti · 05/12/2019 10:23

Which free high quality broadband could help those that can/would work from home but poor internet may restrict that especially in the rural communities

In my experience, technology isn't the reason people aren't working from home. It's a permaculture of presenteesism driven by the hypocrisy of the management who have a horror that an employee might be able to do 8 hours worth of work in 6 and sell their spare labour to someone else.

BigChocFrenzy · 05/12/2019 10:24

Tom Newton Dunn@tnewtondunn

What Sajid Javid wasn’t asked, which was a shame,
was how his Govt intends to negotiate a complicated system of divergence across all sectors of EU trade in just 11 months,
and without losing any market access

#BBCR4today

steve richards@steverichards14

This should be the key question of election- and will be from 10 pm on dec 12 if Tories win a majority...

but by then it’ll be too late..
the eternal dance will restart..

”we can get a good deal in a few months”...
”no you can’t”..
”we must leave without a deal”..

on it’ll go..madness

TatianaLarina · 05/12/2019 10:25

That’s true but at the same time there are jobs specifically WFH with a phone line and a good internet connection. (Eg customer services for travel companies, airline club services etc).

BigChocFrenzy · 05/12/2019 10:27

DG Authoritarians in business and everywhere else have this perpetual horror that life could become easier for someone else,
not them or their "side"

If it doesn't hurt, then you aren't working hard enough; you are scrounging

KeithPartridge · 05/12/2019 10:28

How anyone can think Universal Credit isn't cruel is beyond me. Six month sanctions ffs! It is inhuman!

TatianaLarina · 05/12/2019 10:29

Nationalisation of rail has little cost in itself, just means not renewing franchises, or not bailing out franchisees who get into trouble and can't fulfill their contract.

That’s the easy bit. The costs would come surely from setting up British Rail as a national company, assessments of the whole U.K. rail network including track and rolling stock, buying buildings for headquarters, recruiting for 1000s of staff etc.

I’d be interested to know what the projected costs would be.

CendrillonSings · 05/12/2019 10:40

It's a mystery why no one's mentioned it yet, but here is a thread on the full closing submissions by the Jewish Labour Movement to the Equality and Human Rights Commission Investigation into antisemitism in the Labour Party.

The Jewish Labour Movement has been affiliated with the Labour Party for over 100 years, supporting every Labour leader including Attlee and Foot, so no, they're no one's Tories.

The full horror is dissected by the human rights barrister Adam Wagner:

twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1202521499581575172

DustyDiamond · 05/12/2019 10:52

Looking at what worked wrt military housing or military anything else doesn't work for the general population:

Not entirely sure why you went into a massive lecture on military people & lifestyle tbh

My point re the military system was merely as an analogous example for how the social housing cost system could be fairer

  • you are housed at entitlement
  • if you choose to be above entitlement when there is availability at entitlement you pay the extra
  • if there is no availability at entitlement, you do not pay the extra (because it is not your choice)
  • if you are housed above entitlement through no choice of your own and houses at entitlement become available, you are not forced to move, you retain your above-entitlement home & continue to not pay the difference because it was not your choice in the first place

This would without doubt be fairer than the 'bedroom tax' (not a tax)

CendrillonSings · 05/12/2019 10:55

The dossier specifically accuses Corbyn of 11 separate antisemitic acts committed by him personally: section 25, 1-11.

twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1202526774942412800

Alsohuman · 05/12/2019 11:04

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prettybird · 05/12/2019 11:07

My old boss was like that. He didn't like us working from home (even though the company was fine with that) because when he did so (frequently Hmm), he abused it. Confused

But there again, he was both a micro-manager and a bully Sad

DGRossetti · 05/12/2019 11:10

Meanwhile, a non-partisan reminder that not all promises in election campaigns are ... sincere, if honest ....

www.theregister.co.uk/2019/12/05/observers_question_politicians_ir35_pledges/

IR35 matters, as it's the other side of zero hours contracts, where the government gets to tax individuals as if they are employees whilst at the same time their employers can duck all their obligations because they aren't employees. Schroedinger's employee - another great American import.

LunarSea · 05/12/2019 11:13

In my experience, technology isn't the reason people aren't working from home. It's a permaculture of presenteesism driven by the hypocrisy of the management who have a horror that an employee might be able to do 8 hours worth of work in 6 and sell their spare labour to someone else.

In my experience its as much a cultural expectation in some work environments that those in the office assume that anyone permanently home based does every day, what they themselves do on their WFH days, which often isn't a lot! (In practice actually work far more than contracted hours).

Previous company permanent WFH was fine - fully remote based team and it was managed as such, everyone communicated, and there were team get together a on occasion. Current company (TUPE transfer) openly say they wouldn't choose to have anyone remote based and want to phase it out. Hence every year get a real terms pay cut because there's a policy that remote based can never be rated higher than average, and pay rises are only for above average ratings. Borderline constructive dismissal if you happen to be home based (actually a lot of other policies which added together would probably make a much less borderline case). Meanwhile there's an assumption that you.will also work longer hours to compensate for not travelling, and will be available oncall 247365 because you're always at your office.

CendrillonSings · 05/12/2019 11:14

Alsohuman

Oh, Labour supporters should go right ahead trumpeting that they don't give a shit about the antisemitism that has corrupted their party - despite the full documentary evidence now available. The facts are out now, the rest of the country can see Labour for what it is ... and they don't like it.

www.ft.com/content/263615ca-d873-11e9-8f9b-77216ebe1f17

Financial Times UK general election poll tracker

The Conservatives now lead Labour by 11 points, 43 to 32...

TatianaLarina · 05/12/2019 11:14

God knows I’m critical of Corbyn, but the list of ‘evidence’ of AS from him personally is very weak.

Piggywaspushed · 05/12/2019 11:17

How much of a shit do you give about JRM's anti -semitism or islamophobia in the Tory party, cendrillon?

And yes, I know that's whataboutery.

DGRossetti · 05/12/2019 11:18

I think we should all be touched that CendrillonSings has such deep concern for ethnic minorities. I have to admit it's completely changed my view of Tories.

TatianaLarina · 05/12/2019 11:18

Cendrillon, I’m super critical of JC’s handling of AS in the LP but crowing about a problem that Tories refuse to address in their own party because they simply don’t care - is pointless. The Tories get away with being racist cunts because their voters applaud it and their critics don’t expect better.

Any investigation of AS + Islamophobia within the Tories would be damning.

TatianaLarina · 05/12/2019 11:20

And on a wider remit of racism generally - BJ would be personally indicted.

StarbucksSmarterSister · 05/12/2019 11:22

Looking at what worked wrt military housing or military anything else doesn't work for the general population:

Not to mention that if we wanted to live under military rules we'd have joined the f*ing army.

PeninsulaPanic · 05/12/2019 11:41

Not to mention that if we wanted to live under military rules we'd have joined the f*ing army.

Don't waste your breath @StarbucksSmarterSister because all you'll get for your trouble is DoubleD treating you like you're hard of understanding. Again.

When, as a PP shrewdly explained, the military housing metaphor falls on its arse because people who are taxed on their social housing don't have anything like the social and status (ie. meaningful) benefits that those in military housing situations generally enjoy (and prosper from).

But then, smug entitled sheeple can't relate to the hard, desperate reality of others, they just come up with irrelevant patronising metaphors instead Angry

TheLevellers · 05/12/2019 11:43

I don't think DD is justifying the bedroom tax with the military thing, but talking about how if it was done the way the military do things it would be different and fairer than the bedroom tax.

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