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The Brexit Arms - Counting Down the Days...

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SingingLily · 27/11/2019 09:06

Welcome to the Brexit Arms!

We are temporarily under new management but worry not, the ship is still steady as we sail on to 12 December. A quick recap of the events of the last week or two:

📋❓💙❤️💛⁉️💙‼️🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️😀☹️😀☹️😧😱🙄😬🤥🤔😂🤣😂🔥💨⛈🌥🌦🌤☀️

Anyone of any political persuasion who is prepared to join in, eschew goadery, and enjoy a laugh, welcome. First drinks are on the house.

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Songsofexperience · 01/12/2019 10:18

“I also think once you've crossed the bridge towards intolerance towards one small part of the community, 'tis but a small step to extend that to others.
Absolutely.
That's also why Windrush matters and why treatment of EU citizens matters.

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 01/12/2019 10:19

“Is anyone surprised by that? Labour supporters significantly more anti-Semitic than the Brexit Party? The Conservative Party? And twice more likely than the LibDems?”

No, because they have allowed a ‘specific’ culture of AS to flourish. Also, momentum keep giving marxism/hard socialism the hard sell. Marxism/hard socialism is ground zero for anti semitic tropes.

Also, ‘many’ extreme momentum foot soldiers are often full of conspiracy bullshit. They disseminate that around social media like rabbits on a promise. These conspiracies very often have a key ‘bogey man’, Jews. Apart from flat earth obvs, but the level of thinking from some of these nutters, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were on board with that too.

Conspiracy nuts also like to throw around the term ‘critical thinking’ when it comes to these conspiracies. There are more than a few nutbox conspiracy forums on the internet. Jews are almost universally blamed for every mad cap theory they come up with. It’s a form of extremism and very scary. It’s now leaking into mainstream views. Anyone who ‘truly’ applies any level of this oft touted ‘Critical Thinking’ at the door of those forums, will very quickly see how grim and crazy some of the discussions are (not to mention racist). But, there are a vast number of people on there, who believe and seek to legitimise those views more publically. They false flag willy wave all over the place. They even think that Sandy Hook was a false flag. It’s all ‘psy ops’, deep state, false flags, Soros, NWO etc... in that world. Grim.

SingingLily · 01/12/2019 10:21

There must be a more argumentative thread for that, surely.

I'm afraid I've come to the conclusion that there would be no point in anyone going to The Other Thread for that, Autumn. My experience of that earlier this week is that it's an echo chamber with some very nasty echoes in there.

Brexit has, I'm afraid, exposed some very ugly fault lines in our country. They're just not the ones that were drearily predicted.

And yes, Windrush was an appalling way to treat people who were invited into this country and came in good faith. I really really hope the Home Office has learned from that and does not repeat the same mistakes with EU citizens already settled here.

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DustyDiamond · 01/12/2019 10:27

That's also why Windrush matters and why treatment of EU citizens matters.

Yep
And also agree with other posts too

Songsofexperience · 01/12/2019 10:28

Antisemitism is a plague and it's spreading. It's spreading on the extreme left- but also on the right (just look at the US 'alt right', it's vile). Social media gives it an unfortunately convenient platform.
I'm also concerned about the mainstream trend to 'other' anyone different. Resurgence of AS is a worrying symptom of something much bigger I fear.

SingingLily · 01/12/2019 10:36

Agree, Songs.

Far right, far left - who can distinguish between the two? Both based on hatred of others. Both based on controlling views and behaviour. Neither tolerating dissent. In my view, they are identical twins.

The US's problem is that government is noticeably more right wing than I would be comfortable with whereas here, Corbyn and McDonnell's vision of government is way, way more left wing than I could stomach. Boris is not my first choice but he is the only one who can keep Jezbollah out. After that, all bets are off.

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hopefulhalf · 01/12/2019 10:37

How did you all think Boris performed on Marr ?

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 01/12/2019 10:37

Windrush was a national disgrace. I agree.

SingingLily · 01/12/2019 10:44

Sorry to say I missed it, Hopefulhalf. Too busy trying to straighten up in here. I will make a point of watching it later.

In the meantime, what did you make of it? And here's a 🍺 on the house.

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EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 01/12/2019 10:44

“How did you all think Boris performed on Marr ?”

Sorry hopeful, didn’t see it, tbh I reached peak ‘campaigning’ a few days back! Lol 😂

dirtyrottenscoundrel · 01/12/2019 10:51

A break from brexit chat......and as it’s 1st December,
Favourite Christmas song? 😀

DustyDiamond · 01/12/2019 11:02

How did you all think Boris performed on Marr ?

I think Marr was a bit shit tbh

BJ steamrollered all over him & Marr got tetchy but couldn't control him

Marr asked questions but even when given the answer said 'you haven't answered' indicating he wasn't even listening to the answers being given

Marr muddied the waters unnecessarily over the sentencing thing & early release but wasn't interested in letting BJ clarify it at all

He let BJ waffle unnecessarily at points but then interrupted when he was actually giving a proper answer 🙄

The only interviewer at the moment who can effectively cut over the waffle & get an answer is Andrew Neill - he would have rinsed BJ today

Marr is ineffective & dull

I actually much, much prefer Sophy Ridge's style of interview
She allows them to develop their argument but skewers them & hangs them on their own words

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 01/12/2019 11:03

“All I want for christmas, is youuuuu... Boris”

GrinGrinGrin

hopefulhalf · 01/12/2019 11:05

I thought Marr tried very to keep him off what a communist Jeremy Corbyn is and on his own policies. Interesting that none here watched it in real time despite having time to post about anti-semitism.

DustyDiamond · 01/12/2019 11:06

Favourite Christmas song?

Fairytale of New York means it's the xmas party season 🥳

Also love East 17 - Stay Another Day 😍😍
(technically a xmas song...!!)

And Boney M! (Mary's Boy Child) 🥰

I really, really love all Xmas songs tbh 😂😂😂

DustyDiamond · 01/12/2019 11:07

Interesting that none here watched it in real time despite having time to post about anti-semitism.

🧐 🤔

What do you mean by this?

It is a nonsensical post

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 01/12/2019 11:09

Corbyn baby, slip some (free)broadband under the tree, for meeee, I’ve been an awful good girrrl. 🎶

DustyDiamond · 01/12/2019 11:10

Interesting that none here watched it in real time

Also interesting that I did watch it in real time, & in fact took the time to answer your question about it - yet you are apparently unable to see my posts

'Interesting' times 🤷🏻‍♀️

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 01/12/2019 11:11

“I thought Marr tried very to keep him off what a communist Jeremy Corbyn is and on his own policies. Interesting that none here watched it in real time despite having time to post about anti-semitism.”

ConfusedConfusedConfused

howabout · 01/12/2019 11:13

In honour of Richard Madden in a kilt, The Bitch is Back.

Got Elton on my youtube cos I now have to play all the tracks in full they played snippets of in the BBC4 thing in the week. Also love Saturday Night.

www.justjared.com/photo-gallery/4106631/richard-madden-kilt-kit-harington-rose-leslie-wedding-14/

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 01/12/2019 11:14

“Interesting that none here watched it in real time despite having time to post about anti-semitism.”

Don’t worry though, I’m sure in Corbynland, we will be made to watch all state approved propaganda against our specific will.

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 01/12/2019 11:16

I, saw mommy kissing Ian Blackford. 🎶

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 01/12/2019 11:17

Marxism is cominnng, to town. 🎶

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 01/12/2019 11:20

Here comes Boris, Here comes Boris, right down right down brexitty lane. 🎶

Sorry, you said no brexit, couldn’t resist though! BlushGrin

EpicShitDippedBatBiscuit · 01/12/2019 11:24

Corbyn the iceman,
Was a Marxist Earnest soul,
With a Marrow pipe and a jam jar nose
And two eyes made out of coal…

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