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The weekend has seen the leaders question time debates.

Johnson failed to answer a question and the BBC edited later edited footage to change laughter at him to applause.

Swinson continues to prove that the Lib Dem campaign planners don't understand the electorate. They based the campaign around her and the more the public see her and the more she opens her gob she proves she's the witless headgirl who really knows fuck all.

Corbyn has now adopted a neutral 2nd referendum position. Far too late.

Jo Johnson apparently said that a good election manifesto is one people aren’t talking about 48 hrs later, and it seems that the Conservatives really have gone for that strategy.

Johnson had promised a manifesto for change yet of the three main parties it seems far from that. It avoids controversy for the most part, but also doesn't offer solutions to some of our biggest problems like social care. But with the Tories so ahead in the polls, the status quo and making sure they don't have a repeat of the 'dementia tax' car crash seems to be the order of the day. Because Brexit is going to going to provide a magic solution instead...

Meanwhile the Labour Party have gone completely the other way and really have gone for it and come up with ideas. With a mixed response from the public and press.

And I still can't tell you what is in the LD one, cos Prince Andrew...

This week should see the election come into focus as postal voting starts. As it stands its hard to bet on anything but a Tory majority.

I am not going to read the Tories thread - but I did have time for people like Rory Stewart or Justine Greening, even though I would never vote for them. They were conscientious MPs who did try to represent their constituents.

No intention of trying to hound you off derxa, I do realise my posting can be a bit 'robust' at times

I'm enjoying the thread about whether people will flee the country if Labour wins the election.

There seems to be some level of overlap between people who are certain that no workers, businesses or investments have left/will leave due to No Deal Crash Out Brexit, and people who are certain that workers, businesses or investments will leave due to BogeyCorbyn.

No intention of trying to hound you off derxa, I do realise my posting can be a bit 'robust' at times

Sadly, they are just repeating they are scared of Corbyn

Yep-the number of people on here who are going to vote Tory (despite being a life long Labour voter born into the 14th generation of Labour voters) seemingly because Corbyn looks like Magic Grandad/has a beard/likes his allotment is entertaining.

Fed up yes, yet in the same breath they object to their intelligence/morals being called into question.

I know you can’t stand Corbyn but the option of a soft Brexit or remain would be a far better option for farmers, wouldn’t it? Probably but we want certainty in farming. Boris's slogans ring true 'Dither and delay'
'Get Brexit Done'
Last year was a disaster for us because people didn't want to buy gimmers and tups because of Brexit uncertainty and then this year it was a brilliant trade because people needed breeding stock.
Plus the fact that agriculture in Scotland is devolved. SNP have delayed payments of subsidies regularly.
The amount of variables is mind numbing.

Probably but we want certainty in farming.Boris's slogans ring true

I honestly can’t imagine you’re going to get any certainly with Boris. Slogans and soundbites, yes, but beyond that? I’d say it was more uncertainty.

Boris's slogans ring true 'Dither and delay'

And if the ERG hadnt dithered and delayed wed have left by now, maybe thats why it rings true but blame where blame is due

And if the ERG hadnt dithered and delayed wed have left by now, maybe thats why it rings true but blame where blame is due I agree. It hurts my brain to rewind that whole shit show. I'm a Remain voter. Do you think I asked for all that?

Derxa sounds incredibly stressful.

Probably but we want certainty in farming.

If you think that Boris's deal offers you certainty then you haven't been paying attention.

Before you get get any idea what the eventual trade deal might look like, you need to get past:

• months of bickering over the transition extension.
• a risk of transition ending with no trade deal in Dec 2020.

Corbyn's Brexit proposal is far better for business even if the rest of his manifesto isn't.

And I also feel for farmers, who do hard essential work for a return that most of us would turn our noses up at.

But I have no sympathy for anyone who falls for the "get Brexit done" schtick. If farmers vote for Boris then cry me a river when he shafts them with non-tariff barriers to their major markets and competition from low quality US meat.

If you think that Boris's deal offers you certainty then you haven't been paying attention. I think you've got me confused with someone who doesn't pay assiduous attention to politics. There are bear traps everywhere.

Derxa, in what respect do you think Boris's deal offers certainty? You literally have no idea what UK trade will look like 13 months from now. And starting about 4 months from now there will be a big bun fight over the transition extension to make investors and customers nervous.

So the BBC have "acknowledged mistake in editing" for their lunchtime bulletin, which cut out the laughter after Johnson said telling the truth was vital. It was a mistake similar to the mistake when they should old footage of him at the cenotaph instead of the one from this year where he looked a shambles and laid his wreath upside down.

These are mistakes apparently but why do these mistakes always make Johnson look better? Where are the "mistakes" that make the other leaders look better? 🤔

I'm having great fun translating your welsh insults just - so far I've got 'lamb choc' (and that is choc not chop) 'boring cont' (cont wouldn't translate) and 'durable clay' ... not sure that is exactly what you were trying to call Boris.

Oh and haliwr google translated as 'hacker' - and if you misspell it and put in a double L it comes out as 'saline'. He's salty English.

Derxa, in what respect do you think Boris's deal offers certainty? I don't. How do you think Corbyn's EU strategy will play out.

These are mistakes apparently but why do these mistakes always make Johnson look better? Where are the "mistakes" that make the other leaders look better?

Yes!

Aren’t the press supposed to be abiding by stringent rules during a pre-election period?!

I hope this has been reported to the relevant ombudsman?

I think Corbyn’s EU strategy would result in either a very soft Brexit or remaining. It can’t be that opaque if I managed to work that out.

I think Corbyn’s EU strategy would result in either a very soft Brexit or remaining. It can’t be that opaque if I managed to work that out. I know the policy but would the EU just hand over this magical deal. How long would it all take? Honestly?

How do you think Corbyn's EU strategy will play out.

Soft Brexit (ie inside single market) or remain. For hardcore Remainers, there might be a difference (though personally I'm beyond caring). But for manufacturers and farmers, it's much of a muchness: there is only one way of being inside the single market, but many ways of being outside it.

Any non single market destination is inherently more uncertain.

I was chatting to a colleague who has always voted Labour, but was not so sure this time around, as "the big nationalisation programme is a bit worrying".

I have pointed out that what Labour is proposing is not unusual in the rest of Europe, either in terms of governement spending or state ownership of utilities/rail franchises.

As soon as I mentioned the trains she was immediately on board. I may even have convinced her to make a donation to a candidate in a nearby marginal .

I suspect that it was her train operator's crappiness rather than my eloquence that carried the day ...so if you know any undecided voters who are also regulator commuters...

It'll all have to be voted through Parliament. There'll have to be support from the SNP and that means another Indy Ref. I don't want that.