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The weekend has seen the leaders question time debates.

Johnson failed to answer a question and the BBC edited later edited footage to change laughter at him to applause.

Swinson continues to prove that the Lib Dem campaign planners don't understand the electorate. They based the campaign around her and the more the public see her and the more she opens her gob she proves she's the witless headgirl who really knows fuck all.

Corbyn has now adopted a neutral 2nd referendum position. Far too late.

Jo Johnson apparently said that a good election manifesto is one people aren’t talking about 48 hrs later, and it seems that the Conservatives really have gone for that strategy.

Johnson had promised a manifesto for change yet of the three main parties it seems far from that. It avoids controversy for the most part, but also doesn't offer solutions to some of our biggest problems like social care. But with the Tories so ahead in the polls, the status quo and making sure they don't have a repeat of the 'dementia tax' car crash seems to be the order of the day. Because Brexit is going to going to provide a magic solution instead...

Meanwhile the Labour Party have gone completely the other way and really have gone for it and come up with ideas. With a mixed response from the public and press.

And I still can't tell you what is in the LD one, cos Prince Andrew...

This week should see the election come into focus as postal voting starts. As it stands its hard to bet on anything but a Tory majority.

I don't love Corbyn, I like his policies and given the shit show the tories have served up over a decade there is only one choice.

That's before we even get onto the hostile environment, the awful comments (letterboxes etc). I know where the hate and division is coming from.

I don't wish to have either of them. Nor do I see LibDems and Greens as a credible alternative with their views on "non-men".

So what the hell should I rail against? What term is available for the way the Israeli government is treating the Palestinians?

+1

If there was a trite term for the actions of the Israeli government then I'd want to be known as anti- that.

Long time lurker and only occasional poster as I cant keep up.

Can anyone tell me if there is a tactic voting thread.

I have a vote, I want to use it efficiently, I don't know what to do as I look at the parties and despair, yet I MUST vote

How about "anti Likud". Just an idea.

Yesterday was a very transparent establishment attack on Corbyn because the Labour polling had improved (for what it's worth: I remain very dubious of polling).

Problem is, people see through that. And people don't like it. The Tories' plan of treating the general public like they won't notice the lies and money thrown at this is evaporating.

They did exactly this in 2017 and it didn't really work then either.

It's even more obvious this time, as, unlike May, Johnson is an actual unapologetic racist. Johnson refused to apologise multuple times last week for his own racist comments when asked by members of the public, on QT, citing free speech, and has not initiated any investigations into racism in his party. Total media silence. Corbyn is seemingly being asked to apologise for antisemitism existing in Labour as everywhere else, despite putting processes in place, and and by Johnson's establishment pal no less, and the media is in uproar. What a surprise.

None of this is to excuse racism in any of its forms and it should be confronted wherever it is, and I'm a fan of Corbyn's track record as a lifelong fighter of racism. But it's not exactly subtle is it.

The rest of the world is watching our press openmouthed.

It's pathetic and obvious and people aren't falling for it. THose that already hate Corbyn will use it of course but it isn't changing minds. Labour's policies are changing minds, hence the narrowing polls, and the rightwing panic.

We haven't had the climate issue raised in the election yet. Expect more slurs after that, because Labour will do well.

Young people's participation / registration / interest / fury in this election is high. If there's a dampened turnout, it's not going to be this demographic.

@ARoomWithoutADoor

Try: tactical.vote/compare?ru=1&couk=1&pv=1&bfb=1

Great post Squid.

However, with the much larger Muslim population now in the UK, over 3 million vs about 300,000 Jews, Muslim socialists now have more influence and have been pushing pro-Palestian policies, highly critical of Israeli govt actions I think this is the key to everything but I'm very wary of discussing further.

The chief rabbi is a bojo supporter.

All of his comments should be viewed with caution.

He has done his own reputation no favours and I think most people can see his intervention for what it is.

ARoomwithoutaDoor this is a tactical voting website that compares all the tactical voting sites so you can (mostly) find a consensus

comparethetacticals.com/

Just scroll down to your constituency and it will tell you who to vote for ... unless your in one of the ones where they admit they don't know

Just musing with dh about the language used:

anti-semitic rightly places the description and responsibility on the person or action (and that it is wrong).

islamaphobia transfers the responsibility to Islam because it's a fear of Islam, whether that fear is justified or not

Why don't we use the term anti-Islamist or anti-Muslim to describe those attitudes?

Continuity and Pretzels - thank you so much.

Squid's post is e we orthodox of repetition..

Johnson is an actual unapologetic racist. Johnson refused to apologise multuple times last week for his own racist comments when asked by members of the public, on QT, citing free speech, and has not initiated any investigations into racism in his party.

Remember exactly what Johnson did and said. He too was asked to apologise and admit he had personally contributed to “racist rhetoric”. He refused to apologise and actually
he defended his comments about “tank-topped bum boys” and Muslim women letterboxes etc by saying: “I defend my right to speak out.” He was positively Faragist in tone.

I don't understand why Johnson overtly defending his right to speak out with racist comments doesn't stick but the allegations of AS towards Jeremy Corbyn retain a constant intensity even after expelling members etc.

Is it just because it's expected of this new breed of Tory - in fact it's almost a badge of Faragist type honour. So for eg Zac Goldsmith's anti Muslim comments eventually see him rewarded with cabinet office.
Whereas with Labour because they claim to be non discriminatory- their bar is much higher?

It seems to me there's more political currency in being a racist and proud of it.

Sorry I'm making so many predictive text typos. I meant Squid's post is "worthy of repetition". Not sure how 'orthodox' crept in but sort of appropriate.

I think those falling for the right wing msm AS attacks on corbyn (not labour...corbyn..) are foolish, even if I understand the depth of their concern.
The right wing msm is preying on and whipping up that concern which is disgusting.
Fear is poisonous.

I am half irish.
I abhor the tory party for their stance on all things irish/NI so I do get the fear and disgust that any percieved "anti" stance brings with it.
But the genius of the msm has always been to get people to vote against their own best interests.
If Jewish people really think a Tory party under bojo is not anti semitic...well...they sinply haven't been paying attention how could they, with all the msm concentrating on labour!!
Do I think some members of the labour party are anti semitic?
Yes. But that's a numbers game. There are many of them. Racism is sadly far more widedprwad in.our society than we thought.
Do I think JC is anti semitic?
Absolutely not.
And I think therein lies his main issue...he knows it to be rubbish so has seen no reason to react in a more profound way?
I'm hoping he takes JPs stand on the issue tbh.
Anyway, I don't want to be doing the msms work so thats the last I'll say on the subject!
Peace and love x

Telegraph has published a letter today from numerous trade experts, calling on all sides to drop arbitrary dates to “get Brexit done”, take time to define FTA goals and to set up the equivalent of the OBR to provide transparency for negotiations.

No doubt will get dismissed as being from “Remoaners”.

For balance.. here's a rapidly forgotten article about racism in the Tory party.

Just to remind everyone that it is ok for a current Conservative cabinet minister to equate being Muslim with promoting extremism. It's ok to accuse Muslims of terrorist sympathy for political gain.

It's ok for Zac Goldsmith to overtly stir up Racism for his own ends. As far as I'm aware there was no inquiry into that -although some senior Tories did condemn him- he was later promoted to a cabinet role as a reward for his hard Brexit/ no deal support.

Why don't allegation of racism stick to Teflon Tories but they do stick to Corbyn who really isn't racist?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/07/zac-goldsmith-racist-campaign-london

In my view, as someone who likes Corbyn he should have apologised and said the party will do better, not apologising whether you think he should or not sends out a terrible message (especially in an election campaign) and he should have known how the press would react to it.

When are interviews with Jo Swinson and Boris Johnson ? They too will also face a tough interview.

The most sickening thing is the hard right brexit project has stoked and emboldened extremists. Virtually nothing is said about this. The far right now regularly March through London. We forget 3 years ago an MP who dared to help refugees was murdered. And yet the man derided as "magic grandad" is the problem.

Will Johnson be expected to apologise for the deaths and misery caused by austerity?

Of course not according to some posters on the pro tory threads it has nothing to do with tory policy. History is being rewritten.

As someone else said, Brexit is an anti-modern revolt.

Johnson didn't apologise for his racism or his homophobia. Why not? Because pulling back from an open, welcoming society is a key plank of the appeal of Brexit.

Likewise, his defence of his racism - carried out largely through an attack on women - was done through dividing women into 'acceptable' women and 'unacceptable' women.

The racism, homophobia and misogyny aren't an accident. They are at the very heart of what Johnson's Brexit Party are pledging to deliver.

We have a clear choice in this GE. And it's quite frightening: onwards to a future that is a deepening expression of that which we have moved towards and struggled for (anti-racist, tolerant/open) or pulled backwards into a reactionary culture built over massive economic injustice.

It's not surprising some people find that attractive, including some women. They see themselves as falling into the 'acceptable' category - and believe they will be rewarded for their work in staking the borders of 'acceptable' identities.

For the rest of us, the prospect is frightening and ethically abhorrent.