Westminstenders: Manifesto or Bust?

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The Brexit Party aren't doing one.

The Labour Party apparently can't afford theirs.

The Conservatives will just lie anyway.

And the LDs got upstaged by Prince Andrew's resignation from royal duties for being a fuckwit.

3 weeks to go...

It shows a pattern of poor judgment.

If every politician had taken that view, nobody would have met with Republicans and the GFA would never have happened.

And I don't want that anywhere near No. 10. Same as Johnson should be nowhere near it.
So who DO you want in number 10 next month ?
You have to choose one of the available options because Rainbow Unicorns do not exist.

@GhostofFrankGrimes , a no mark posing back bencher isn't Mo Mowlem or the UK government. Despite desperate attempts to claim he is.
And as for wanting unicorns- both manifestos are Unicorn Treasure maps. Don't pretend they aren't.

"You have to choose one of the available options because Rainbow Unicorns do not exist."

100% this. If I had a vote I'd be voting for "no overall control" because I think that compared to a Tory majority govt, anything else is preferable.

@bellinisurge, how do you think the GFA was negotiated? Politicians of all colours held their noses and engaged with Sinn Fein to get it done. Do you condemn them too? Holding a 35 year old photograph against someone at a time of national crisis is ridiculous.

I don't believe in Rainbow Unicorns. But you will find lots about them in both manifestos.

a no mark posing back bencher isn't Mo Mowlem or the UK government. Despite desperate attempts to claim he is.

Nobody has suggested that.

@Alsohuman , it was negotiated by people in government. Not by people looking for the 80s equivalent of an edgy selfie.

What he did "support" was negotiating with the IRA, since (and history has since proved him right) in a conflict where both sides admit they are never going to win militarily, how else do you find peace ? Who could disagree with that?

Plenty of people. The first step is to accuse anyone who dares to negotiate of "legitimising" the view of the other side. And so on.

Bellini
The manifestos are irrelevant.
Who should be visiting Larry the cat next month ?
Somebody will - Boris or Jeremy or Jo ? Which one ?

my personal dream is that all three lose their seats and we get fresh choices but then I know I'm deluded

Scraping the barrel now @bellinisurge.

"Nobody has suggested that."
Apart from everyone who says he was the key to peace in NI, that is 😂

No, Also. You vote for Labour if you want to. I won't. Unless the Brexit Party are a genuine threat in my constituency. Or the Labour candidate changes his position on a local issue.
You scrape your own barrel.

my personal dream is that all three lose their seats

Shoot me but right now I'd almost settle for a Tory majority as long as Johnson loses his seat.

(Corbyn's seat is safe. I'm not chasing unicorns. And remained wanting Swinson to loser her seat is just counterproductive).

Politicians of all colours held their noses and engaged with Sinn Fein to get it done. Do you condemn them too? No but they were people in power. I don't recall any Labour PM giving Corbyn a government post.

it was negotiated by people in government.

Initially in secret, some MP's had the courage to meet openly, it was something the British public were going to have to stomach - Politicans talking with Republicans and doing deals. Thats how you go from dubbing Gerry Adams voice to putting Martin McGuinness in devolved government in around 10 years.

Apart from everyone who says he was the key to peace in NI, that is
Which NONE of us on this thread - even JustAnother do
cos its bullshit
same as you not voting because of it ....

Who will be feeding Larry the Cat ?

Politicians in government.
Corbyn has never been in government. Or even on the front bench.

I don’t have to scrape any barrel. I’ll be able to look at myself in the mirror on 13 December because I’ll have used my hard won vote to its best effect.

No but they were people in power. I don't recall any Labour PM giving Corbyn a government post.

So unless you are in the cabinet or shadow cabinet MP's shouldn't enage with important issues of the day. Interesting thought process and how not to earn your MP's salary...

It's back.

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Me too. @Alsohuman . Unless you live in my constituency, you don't have the choices to make that I have.

it was something the British public were going to have to stomach

The British Public usually gets what it is given.

"So unless you are in the cabinet or shadow cabinet MP's shouldn't enage with important issues of the day. Interesting thought process and how not to earn your MP's salary..."
Engaging in important issues of the day doesn't include sucking up to the IRA. If you can't see the difference between that and, say, lobbying for improvements in local infrastructure, you need to give your head a wobble.

Engaging in important issues of the day doesn't include sucking up to the IRA. If you can't see the difference between that and, say, lobbying for improvements in local infrastructure, you need to give your head a wobble.

If you can't seen the difference between talking and sucking up I'm not the one that needs to wobble my head. But if using emotive language is the only way you can defend your filmsy arguments go ahead