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What is going to be better on the ‘other side’?

162 replies

Bearbehind · 12/11/2019 22:10

I’ve long since accepted that Brexit is happening.

But what is going to be better once we’ve left?

What is the everyday Joe going to notice that improves their life?

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Miljea · 12/11/2019 22:21

We all know 'nothing tangible'.

But we surely have long since accepted that you're not asking the 'right' question.

If report after government sanctioned report tells us, at best, we have a '50 year correction' ahead, and many tell us it will be a shitstorm; if the likes of Boris-the-Clown and Sir Opportunist Farage still attract support, despite open lie after open lie.....

It appears not to matter if there are positives or not.

Many don't care. Some because they're insulated from the fall out (or so they think...); some because they, post June 2916, have failed to engage with anything political from that day to this.

WTF0ver · 13/11/2019 00:15

Sweet FA.

lonelyplanetmum · 13/11/2019 05:22

*But what is going to be better once we’ve left?
**
*Other currencies will be better! Other countries food will be better than ours. Other economies will be better too.

What is the everyday Joe going to notice that improves their life?

Sweet FA.

*What is the every day Jo going to notice that is detrimental to their lives?
*
I can write a very long list starting with:

Lower food standards, additives etc.

New brands of medicines from US pharma - eventually paid for by patients themselves.

Reduced workers and consumer rights ( eg starting with reduced protection if a job is lost due to a business changing hands)

Reduced standards in products eg toys.

Shrinking of U.K. universities and contraction of reputation for international research. Some Unis closing.Less people going to Uni.

Reduced ability to travel for people and pets- less holidays with increased expenses if abroad due to the pound rates.

Harder to drive abroad.More expensive car and travel insurance, medical bills when abroad.

Poorer quality of the environment more pollution eg in rivers beaches.

Possible Return of plastic bags and possibly smoking in public places.

Increased spam, more cyber crime and more companies using your data.

Less financial services work available as no longer gateway to EU.

Change of workplace culture with more Chinese and US employer attitudes. Reduced wages.

MeanMrMustardSeed · 13/11/2019 05:24

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Peregrina · 13/11/2019 09:22

The only possible benefit - that it's put an end to Farage.
Or young people now being more politically aware and registering to vote, and take action about things which matter to them.

yolofish · 13/11/2019 09:55

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HappydaysArehere · 13/11/2019 09:57

Nothing. We are sunk. Fed up. Depressed.

Songsofexperience · 13/11/2019 10:40

Brexit was never about improving people's lives.
Hope that message finally sinks in.

SonEtLumiere · 13/11/2019 12:02

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BaloneyInMySlacks · 13/11/2019 12:33

Cheaper olives apparently. Yay. Hmm

ListeningQuietly · 13/11/2019 17:05

On the other side the nostalgia will be better

horse4course · 13/11/2019 17:19

There will be cheaper stuff as products from less developed economies enter our markets on more favourable terms.

Whether food or other produce, there will probably be quality issues but still cheaper stuff.

I'm hoping the main benefit is an emperor's new clothes moment when leave voters realise they've been sold a pup, but maybe they'll keep on with it.

I think a generation of young people have been impressed with the importance of unity and political activism, which will come back to bite future conservative movements.

I don't want to see the NHS privatised but I recognise that if we end up with private healthcare (I.e paying more) that might improve standards where the Tories have been deliberately underfunding it.

TheCatsPjammas · 13/11/2019 17:29

I really tried to think of one positive thing but I’m failing miserably.

TheCatsPjammas · 13/11/2019 17:34

Maybe some people from the Brexit arms thread can come and ‘cheer’ me up.

bobbieflekman · 13/11/2019 17:36

I think I saw someone post on another thread that one upside would be the end of the Tory party. We can hope!!!

MockersthefeMANist · 13/11/2019 19:11

I'm getting a Wizard of Oz vibe now, with Priti Patel in her ruby trainers singing Somewhere Over The Rainbow as she skips, with Boris the Scarecrow, if he only had a brain, Govey the cowardly lion and Rarrrrb the cowardly lion, off to see the Farage, the wonderful Farage of Arse.

lljkk · 13/11/2019 20:15

"Nostalgia will be better" - I like that one!

Bearbehind · 13/11/2019 20:18

It is depressing isn’t it?

It seems we’re going ahead with this regardless, even though no one is even pretending anymore that our lives are going to improve by leaving.

It’s just got to happen because.........democracy 🤔

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dirtyrottenscoundrel · 13/11/2019 20:22

Well yes op.

Just like labour supporters have to suck it up when the tories get in & vice versa.
Nothing is perfect, someone is always a bit pissed off in any democracy.

frumpety · 13/11/2019 20:24

Well for a start a lot of people who want to see Brexit done will be happy? All the people who voted to leave the EU voted for the same outcome, come hell or high water ? so a fifth of the UK will be very happy indeed and that is what is important isn't it ?

Bearbehind · 13/11/2019 20:25

But the point I’m trying to make is that no one appears to be getting what the6 wanted.

Even those who support Leaving just appear to have conceded we won’t be better off in any tangible way - we just get to say we’re no longer in the EU.

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dirtyrottenscoundrel · 13/11/2019 20:31

Yes.
Just ‘not being in the EU anymore’ is enough to make most of the 17 million happy.
And that’s what annoys remainers most I know.

tinytemper66 · 13/11/2019 20:33

The joy of blue passports and less foreigners apparently (dripping sarcasm obviously)

Bearbehind · 13/11/2019 20:36

And that’s what annoys remainers most I know.

Indeed - and why wouldn’t it because it means all this damage is for no reason other than xenphobia

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frumpety · 13/11/2019 20:38

Bear it doesn't matter though, they will just be happier, because it doesn't matter if their lives are not improved in any tangible way, that's not what all this was about, nobody expected things to be better as a result of leaving, I mean honestly who suggested such a thing ? This is about democracy now, so when the Conservatives win with a majority, you can absolutely expect them ALL to vote everything Brexity through without censure because Democracy < nods head sagely >