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[DustyDiamond]

Welcome to the Brexit Arms!!

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Very welcome move by Nigel. I'll be interested to see what the polls are now saying, especially for those seats where Brexit Party aren't standing.

Epic your photoshopping is genius!

LOL Dusty as Nigel's unofficial adviser!

Bellini my constituency's also Labour Leave, I know a few folks who usually vote Labour, but hate the Tories, so are planning to vote Brexit this time. If enough votes go from Labour to Brexit, the Tories could sneak in. It's going to be interesting.

I suggest you ask these poor leave voters if they really want to be poorer. The Institute for Fiscal Studies have shown that any kind of brexit would make the country poorer. Is that really what they want? (You may have to explain it to them)

“Ralph Ward-Jackson, has just withdrawn his name following Nigel Farage’s announcement, saying he doesn’t want to split the Leave vote. 😮😮”

The plot thickens!

Yaralie. Crack on! 😍 Go and find some ‘poor’ leave voters IRL, to explain at. I’m sure it will be very welcomed. I typically find overworked, underpaid, historically sidelined and politically ignored people love being ‘explained’ to!

@BelleHathor I heard Emily Thornberry on 5 Live this morning. The presenter was quizzing her on the deal they would negotiate with the EU and pointed out it was basically the same as staying in EU if we had a CM and alignment to the SM. She just skirted round it and tried to talk about how the labour deal would be better and they were putting it back to the people. The presenter asked 'what would be the one main difference between the deal and remaining in the EU... and she couldn't give one, other than say 'but we'd be out of the EU'.

I'm hoping people start to see the Labour fudge for what it is.

👏👏👏👏 Epic 🤣🤣
Yaralies post reminds me of an article I read (unfortunately the article was not about how to win people over to your POV using cogent language or even how to be polite!)
"Remainers: getting angry isn’t working. It’s time to see a shrink.

Visit any middle-class gathering this summer and even the vaguest hint of Brexit sympathy is likely to elicit a swift and angry response. “It’s broken the social contract,” one senior City lawyer told this author over wine one evening, in a broadside aimed squarely at those who voted for Brexit. “We paid all the taxes which propped them up. Now they’ve gone and f*d us. So, f*k them. We’ll be fine, but they’re screwed.”

www.politico.eu/article/brexit-anxiety-disorder-britain-middle-class/amp/

Holly, I am questioning whether Labour want to lose the election?Thornberry is the embodiment of "Metropolitan Elite" with that superior "I know better than you" disdain.
I guess it doesn't sound as good to say , vote for Labour and we will give you a credible choice between remain and remain and fuck the 17 million because they couldn't possibly know what they were voting for. 🤔

Those poor canvassers in the link from Epic. 😲

Instead of trudging from door to door, perhaps they should take up the Tom Watson fitness regime.

Do 10,000 steps a day and before you know it, you've left the Labour Party.

Agree Belle. It's amazing that people talk about BJ being unpopular in the north of england because he's a typical tory toff. But I can hardly see the likes of Emily Thornberry being popular in leave voting Labour seats either. She comes across as very posh, snooty and part of the metropolitan elite as you say. Plus we know she's an ardent remain supporter. I can't imagine images of her draped in the EU flag at anti brexit marches is a vote winner in marginal and leave labour areas.

For me Labour's fudge is the worst stance of all the parties because its so disingenuous. They are hiding behind this notion of people being given another 'say' but the deal they will negotiate will be a remainers deal. I don't see how it nullify the euro- scepticism out there. It will still be there if people feel strong armed into 'remaining' because that's basically the two choices that will be on that referendum ballot paper. I don't think I would even bother voting if we did have Labour's 2nd referendum tbh, it would be a complete waste of time.

Why are the Tories criticising Labours proposed spending but refusing to release their own - what are they hiding?

Why are the Tories criticising Labours proposed spending but refusing to release their own - what are they hiding?

Here is an independent economist's comparison of Labour and Conservative spending proposals you might find enjoyable.

Or maybe not. 🤷🏼‍♀️

capx.co/crunch-the-numbers-and-you-see-the-true-scale-of-labours-fiscal-recklessness

That article is an eye opener, Belle. It explains much.

Articles shows that Tories aren’t in a position to criticise anyone due to the level of debt they have put on the country and with no benefit to the public.

Epic that video made me very uncomfortable. The householder calls the canvasser an ignorant little swine. Whatever you think of the Labour leadership, there's no call for that.

The Emily Thornberry GMB vid is an almighty car crash! Thanks to whoever posted it!

I was cringing for Thornberry in the car this morning. I almost wanted her to say veerrryyyy slowwwwwlllly Why. Don’t. You. Fucking. Ask. Jeremy. But she just continued to try and put lipstick on a pig and make out he hasn’t criticised our Armed Forces deployment at every opportunity over the past 30 odd years. Sadly, I arrived at work as she desperately threw Margaret Thatcher into the mix in an attempt to deflect from the fact JC has categorically stated he would never use nuclear weapons whatever threat the UK was facing.

I’ve reported the post. See you all at election time. 👋

Helllooooo!!

Finished early so catching up on thread - who knew it would be so easy to 'persuade' our Nige?!

I didn't even need the blow torch in the end - a cigarette & a pint were all it took!!

Here is an independent economist's comparison of Labour and Conservative spending proposals you might find enjoyable.

LOL at 'independent'. Capx is a rightwing mouthpiece for the rightwing Centre for Policy Studies.

You've had a very successful first day, Dusty. Can't wait to see what you've got planned for Day 2! 😁

Epic, please don't go. I never really know whether my posts on here are helpful or funny or what, but for the moment, I plough on. However, you add so much in terms of information, informed comment and sheer humour that I always look forward to reading your posts. You brighten my day.

Belle, that clip 😧. I guess Emily Thornberry is not a "morning person", then

LOL at 'independent'

TwoFingers, CapX didn't write the article. It merely published it. Julian Jessop, the author, is an independent economist. You'll find that information at the foot of the article. All of the contributors to CapX make it clear whether they are independent or affiliated to any particular organisation.

Polling intentions broken down into villages/towns/cities etc
YouGov
Changes shown wrt GE 2017

Shows again (I think?) a link between Labour votes going to Brexit Party & Tory votes switching to Lib Dem

(Fieldwork carried out 17 to 28 Oct so out of date already 🙄)