Brexit Arms

[DustyDiamond]

Welcome to the Brexit Arms!!

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double you can try and make an argument if you want, or you can dispel my assertion that Brexit isn’t going to be done and dusted in the near future

We haven’t agreed a WA let alone an actual deal

This is going to go on for years

in my corner a substantial 'pay rise' from a new client.

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Corbyn? Just hilario that he suggests that he'll just pop over to Brussels, negotiate a brand new deal, get it passed through Parly and then have another Ref?

I really dislike criticism of others as a form of self-promotion, but as a stand alone idea, it is a bit delusional.

After the Brexit thing via BJ's WAB gets started, I'd probably happily cast a vote towards JC - because outlandish old geezers deserve a vote from time to time; but not this time.

Any suitable treats for XingDog behind your bar?

Bear I'm going on hard core labour voting tory.... It twas on news today.

Sky. Lady declaring she's voted Labour all her life, family have etc and now...

She's turned blue.

Not blue smurfs.... Blue tory

Just hilario that he suggests that he'll just pop over to Brussels, negotiate a brand new deal, get it passed through Parly and then have another Ref?

Totally agree that this is main the reason Corbyn is a joke

He’s no idea what he’d negotiate.

He, as ever, just acts like an underdog Scrappy Doo

Xing - I have marrows

That is all

(Training for dystopia)

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Congratulations, Dusty. Not that I'm surprised: your competence behind the bar is obvious! Also congratulations to the proud new driver. I worry with you.

Dog treats matter, obviously, though. XingDog does not fancy (vegetable) marrow -- beef bones on the other hand....

Hate I agree but for me corbyn has gone too far.

The scales fell from eyes a while when he was on this morning talking about blankets being refused to be delivered to poor shivering calais migrants.

Then it turned out actually there was a valid reason to turn those 'helpful' people away....

I was really shocked and felt very naive. Then a former socialist (from the youth) said their emblem is wolf on sheep's clothing...

Now with members of the Jewish community feeling they have to speak out about corbyn and anti semitism... Bridge to far for for me.

Tis a bit of a sad do isn't it Bear? After we get started with Brexiting (which you will find that many here are already aware is a process and not a thing that is just "done").

I really do look forward to some Clause 4 Socialism and Nationalisation of Utilities and Transport support arguing against the Global Capitalists - with a good dollop coming from the Environmental Lobby/Greens too.

First, we need to get on with Brexit.

All changes are wrt 2017 GE
Pollster is YouGov
Taken from BritainElects on Twitter
(Think I've got them all...!)

North East, regional voting intention:

LAB: 32% (-23)
CON: 26% (-8)
BREX: 19% (+19)
LDEM: 15% (+10)
GRN: 7% (+6)

South West, regional voting intention:

CON: 41% (-10)
LDEM: 21% (+6)
LAB: 17% (-12)
BREX: 13% (+13)
GRN: 7% (+5)

South East, regional voting intention:

CON: 41% (-13)
LDEM: 23% (+12)
LAB: 16% (-13)
BREX: 12% (+12)
GRN: 6% (+3)

London, regional voting intention:

LAB: 39% (-16)
CON: 29% (-4)
LDEM: 19% (+10)
BREX: 6% (+6)
GRN: 5% (+3)

East, regional voting intention:

CON: 45% (-10)
LAB: 17% (-16)
LDEM: 18% (+10)
BREX: 14% (+14)
GRN: 5% (+3)

West Midlands, regional voting intention:

CON: 43% (-6)
LAB: 23% (-20)
LDEM: 14% (+10)
BREX: 12% (+12)
GRN: 7% (+5)

East Midlands, regional voting intention:

CON: 45% (-6)
LAB: 22% (-19)
LDEM: 15% (+11)
BREX: 12% (+12)
GRN: 6% (+4)

Wales, regional voting intention:

LAB: 29% (-20)
CON: 28% (-6)
BREX: 15% (+15)
LDEM: 12% (+7)
PC: 12% (+2)
GRN: 3% (+3)

Scotland, regional voting intention:

SNP: 42% (+5)
CON: 22% (-7)
LDEM: 13% (+6)
LAB: 12% (-15)
BREX: 6% (+6)
GRN: 4% (+4)

North West, regional voting intention:

CON: 33% (-3)
LAB: 30% (-15)
LDEM: 17% (+12)
BREX: 14% (+12)
GRN: 5% (+4)

Yorkshire and Humberside, regional voting intention:

CON: 34% (-7)
LAB: 29% (-20)
LDEM: 16% (+11)
BREX: 14% (+11)
GRN: 7% (+6)

Wow, some of those swings!

I know it's all water under the bridge, but when Leave won, I expected Labour, led by Corbyn, to grab that particular bull by the horns and run with it. They could've claimed Leave for Labour and kicked Farage into the long grass.

What does that mean dusty?.
What about change UK... Are they not trending?

Genuine there are no scales before my eyes (anymore - as I'm oldish) but I've yet to meet the Perfect Person, let alone the Perfect Politician. We expect our politicians to be too 'perfect' and hold them to 'higher standards' than we either live ourselves or forgive those that we care for.

I sort of wonder whether the (possibly mythical) blue Labour vote has been looking for an exit for a while. Locally (SWUK) is not Labour, but there's a large woke vote.

After we get started with Brexiting (which you will find that many here are already aware is a process and not a thing that is just "done"

Wish someone would point that out to Boris Johnson...

What about change UK... Are they not trending?

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Loving your work Genuine!!

Jezsus’s battle bus...

After Brexit, I think Labour support will increase in the SW. Most of the 'wokeness' is imported by 'second-home' electors registered elsewhere, it's pretty 'we invented woke before you were awake' in a lot of parts.

For many of those that live here, crammed into BTLs that the LHA won't cover, paying the highest Water Bills in the UK (keeping those Beaches beautiful for the 'visitors'), Council Tax higher than London Boroughs - all on NMW, mostly zero-hours contracts, inadequately topped up by Working Benefits.

Yes, there's a taste in the SW for improving the conditions of the low-paid workers.

Loving all your work here comrades, Corbyn as underdog Scrappy Doo, marrow-based dog treats, Change UK not trending and the Fun Bus!

Cheers

As there should be Hate. I'm not actually in the cool part of the Southwest, but I definitely see young families trying to make lives in too small houses at stratospheric rents on tiny incomes. And yes, wages are very low, but because most people attended indifferent schools/have few skills, the brighter ones move for uni and make their lives elsewhere, there are lots of people who feel left behind. I agree the SW's low paid workers deserve better, but there are no major employers here upon whom the workers can impose demands for better terms and conditions. My DH has a micro engineering business (six employees) but he pays better than the public sector (top wage locally) and to suggest he pays even more would crash the business into bankruptcy. We have not ever had anyone leave for better paid work; simply put, because there isn't any.

And we have lovely beaches and country.

Sorry to barge in with an off track post...

Further to last post with all the regional polling - based on that regional polling, Flavible Politics on Twitter have done a seat projection:

Overall % (all regions combined)

CON: 36%
LAB: 22%
LDEM: 19%
BRX: 12%
SNP: 4%
PC: 1%

Flavible Seat Projection (based on the regional polls) (changes wrt 2017)

CON: 376 (+58)
LAB: 162 (-100)
SNP: 50 (+15)
LDEM: 39 (+27)
PC: 4 (-)
GRN: 1 (-)

Teachers, for example, are in short supply across most of the UK, but every teaching job advertised in our area draws a big bag of applications because it's a lovely affordable place to live on a public sector wage, as you would be better paid than almost anyone else. Same is true for general practice nurses and midwives. The unfilled jobs are agricultural labour, field picking work, or caring, and hospitality in the summer.