Anyone else worry that we could end up with civil war and the break up of the UK?

[KennDodd]

All because of that wretched unnecessary referendum.

A number of surveys have shown just how many people think violence and the break up of the UK is a price worth paying for Brexit (or no Brexit). We've already got increased tensions in both NI and Scotland. Brexit has all the far right racist groups on their side, so quick to violence, Remain has the young on its side, so again quick to violence. Politicians and the media seem to be intent on only raising the temperature further.

This isn't something that keeps me awake at night or anything but I think people are naive if they think it could never happen here. I suppose one way to avoid it would be if Brexit did happen and the sunlit uplands and all the Brexit promises actually happened. I don't know anyone (Leave or Remain) who believes everything will suddenly get a lot better anymore though. Even if it did I still can't see any solution for the border in Ireland.

Ireland won’t bear any negative consequences from the violence..none whatsoever . all the violence will be in the UK... a region of the UK called Northern Ireland

If that’s correct why is Ireland objecting to a hard border?

Och come on now sir!! You’ve had this explained a million times before troll

You’ve had this explained a million times before troll

A million times is a lot to remember off the top of my head. Maybe you can list them all again?

What makes all remainers think UK wants a free trade deal with the US? Many US food products, colourings, additives, preservatives are already banned from the EU.

Plus UK already does more trade with US than it does with Germany

Oh do keep up.

Leaving the EU means that the fact the EU bans products, ingredients, etc will be irrelevant. All those banned colors, additives, antibiotics, preservatives and hormones will soon be available on British supermarket shelves. Also chlorinated chicken from birds raised in horrific conditions.

This means that UK agriculture is doomed. It's far cheaper to raise chickens the way they do in the US.

The illusion that the GFA (which most of the world had never heard of before Brexit) is one of the Ten Commandments which takes priority over Article 50 that was fully accepted by Ireland over 10 years ago is astonishing.

Nobody is saying the UK doesn't have the right to leave without a deal.

But the UK will need a deal in order to trade with the massive trading bloc next door, so will have to respect the GFA because any trade deal will involve the approval of all members of the EU.

The WA negotiated by Theresa May reflected the reality of the GFA.

And I take it from your comment on the GFA that you personally had never heard of it before Brexit?

It was negotiated with the able assistance of Senator George Mitchell, who was appointed by Bill Clinton. You are unable to admit that Nancy Pelosi is also aware of the GFA. You seem to have a few blind spots here, you and the rest of the ERG.

Also a weird inability to understand that post-Brexit reality will be different from what you are familiar with now. America's interest in the UK stemmed from the fact that the UK was its poodle in Brussels. Now that the UK is leaving the UK I predict a certain cooling off of that 'special relationship'.

The Trump administration's interest in the UK arose from a desire to destroy the EU and/or make the UK a better place for America to do business in. Maybe familiarise yourself with the history of Puerto Rico? Get used to the feeling of the cap in the hand.

If that’s correct why is Ireland objecting to a hard border?

Because it violates the terms of an international agreement.

@MysteryTripAgain lives far away from the UK and pretends to (or genuinely does) not understand any explanation you give them about NI. You can do it countless times and they will pop back again with the same "questions". This is just a game to them.
Try your best to ignore.

But the UK will need a deal in order to trade with the massive trading bloc next door, so will have to respect the GFA because any trade deal will involve the approval of all members of the EU

So it WTO or no deal then add neither of those options require approval from EU member states.

The Trump administration's interest in the UK arose from a desire to destroy the EU and/or make the UK a better place for America to do business in

Which is why trump favours no deal

Because it violates the terms of an international agreement

So why did Ireland accept the terms of Article 50 over 10 years ago? No deal is spelt out clearly as an allowable outcome.

Do you really think all 28 EU members will reach an agreement? No chance.

Scotland will want a second was a condition to any deal

Spain will want Gibraltar as condition to a deal

The countries that are net receivers will want guarantee their free money is not reduced

Greece will want their debts written off

The list is endless and always would be. Hence no deal the most likely outcome.

Most of ‘rioting’ takes place in London stoked by Corbyn types. Won’t happen were we live. I fail to understand why people are anti police, unless you are a drug dealer. Most rioting just enables the usual suspects to loot shops