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time4chocolate · 17/10/2019 20:56

Quite coincidentally I too have been in negotiations today regarding the pubs licence and it's good news here as well, a deal has been agreed!!

There were no amendments or legal objections put forward so a shiny new licence has been issued and normal service can be resumed Smile

Same rules apply.

Now let's hope Saturday's proceedings can go ahead without the usual dicking around and that what has been nigh on impossible during the last 3 years, a majority, can be achieved otherwise I feel we are off to hell in a handcart!

First drink is on the house 🍻🍷🍻🍷Cheers

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Walkingdeadfangirl · 21/10/2019 17:12

But 17.4 million have not said what they want

Do remainers ever leave their own echo bubble? 17.4 million people said they WANTED TO LEAVE THE EU!

I despair that even more than half the population have below average intelligence.

DustyDiamond · 21/10/2019 17:16

The last year has been a fine example of a rogue parliament.

Surely the single biggest thing to impact UK since WWII is not the hill to die on wrt 'rulez say you can't bring something more than once'
Bercow is a twat

And the anti-brexit rainbow coalition?
They are so wildly caught up in their own hubris that they are blind to the optics of their behaviour both within & outwith the HoC

GoodJobSteve · 21/10/2019 17:18

'rulez say you can't bring something more than once'

...in the same Parliamentary session.

Maybe Johnson should prorogue parliament?

Grin
frumpety · 21/10/2019 17:18

But how do all the 17.4 million want to leave, do you think you speak for them all ?

BertrandRussell · 21/10/2019 17:18

“ 17.4 million people said they WANTED TO LEAVE THE EU! ”

Under what terms? To what end?

GhostofFrankGrimes · 21/10/2019 17:19

You want to leave the EU but everyone is struggling to articulate how this can be done without damaging the economy and keeping NI happy.

howabout · 21/10/2019 17:20

54321 have you not worked out yet that if you are correct the politicians should never have been stupid enough to absolve themselves of responsibility by asking us. It therefore follows that it is no surprise they are too stupid to actually be able to carry out the mandate they requested and were granted.

I don't know about a Citizen's Assembly for a 2nd Ref but it would have more legitimacy if the Govt had ever even considered an expert panel of Brexiteers. Could even have had minority representation from the losing side.

howabout · 21/10/2019 17:24

Ghost an economy that only works for the top 1-10% South of Watford is hardly worth preserving. That is why 90% of people don't actually care about the economy ie the top 1-10% being poorer. In fact if it stops them being able to afford to treat the rest of us as a mere inconvenience then so much the better.

54321go · 21/10/2019 17:24

I just love getting emails from MNH

I will beat them to it and leave anyway.
Leavers can just fuck off, they are brainless arseholes.
Now to quit

DustyDiamond · 21/10/2019 17:24

Latest polls for BJ deal vs Remain are both 42/42 split
(Survation & opinium)

When decimals are included, leave edges it apparently

When 'don't knows' are discounted on the opinium poll, the split is 50.3% to 49.7% in favour of leave with BJ's deal

Parliament needs to make a fucking decision:
Deliver the deal as it is or GE
A 2nd ref would solve fuck all

PulpPixie · 21/10/2019 17:26

Bercow is a disgrace. He not impartial and I only hope something gets done about him. Thankfully he’s leaving though.

DustyDiamond · 21/10/2019 17:26

I will beat them to it and leave anyway.
Leavers can just fuck off, they are brainless arseholes.

😂😂😂

And remoaners wonder why they get ignored on these threads!!

howabout · 21/10/2019 17:28

According to Sir Curtice the don't knows have it. He reckons there are so many who are beyond caring all the polling on Brexit options is pointless atm (bit on BBC website - most disappointed not to see his face accompanying it - Is Sir John Curtice on TV is my favourite twitter feed)

Walkingdeadfangirl · 21/10/2019 17:28

But how do all the 17.4 million want to leave
I dont know, what does that matter? We voted for a destination outside the EU, the government is the driver that navigates the route.

If I find they have driven me to a destination I didn't request I will vote for a different driver at the next election.

Its just remainers Machiavellian machinations to cause a shit storm, gaslighting leavers into cancelling our move and staying in the EU prison.

bellinisurge · 21/10/2019 17:32

Dontcha just hate it when Parliament exercises sovereignty just not in the way you want it to.

This is all happening because Parliament doesn't trust the PM so they have found cunning ways to frustrate his schemes. And to make him get what he wants the hard way.
Which, I grant you, is annoying and frustrating.
But if he wasn't such an I trustworthy shit, we would have a clear path be out on 31October. Because he probably has enough votes.

DustyDiamond · 21/10/2019 17:33

I love Sir John Curtice!

He obviously gets joy from his work & it shows all over his excited face whenever he's on the telly 😍

GhostofFrankGrimes · 21/10/2019 17:37

The great thing about democracy is that governments get held to account. Particularly underhanded governments.

DustyDiamond · 21/10/2019 17:37

Bellini I disagree I'm afraid (quelle surprise WinkGrin)

It's not exercising sovereignty, it's holding a zombie govt hostage because it wants to overturn a referendum

Cunning ways to frustrate the PM & govt are not acceptable - if they have no confidence in him or don't trust him they should do the right thing & boot him out
Instead they are playing political games to score cheap points

GoodJobSteve · 21/10/2019 17:45

Cunning ways to frustrate the PM & govt are not acceptable - if they have no confidence in him or don't trust him they should do the right thing & boot him out

All he had to do to get an election is ask the EU for an extension to have one. shrugs

Walkingdeadfangirl · 21/10/2019 17:47

This is all happening because Parliament doesn't trust the PM so they have found cunning ways to frustrate his schemes

Another lie spread by remainers. Boris said he would get a deal and he did.
This is all happening because remainer MPs are trying to rip up 17.4 million people votes. They are scrabbling around in the dirt to invent any excuse possible to do this, rather than being honest and admit they dont give a crap about democracy.

bellinisurge · 21/10/2019 17:56

That's right. I'm lying. I completely imagined the unlawful prorogation of Parliament. I completely imagined removing the whip from a load of Tories. I completely imagined Johnson lying to the DUP at their conference.
Gaslighting bollocks.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 21/10/2019 18:35

Remainers hate it when they are called out.

bellinisurge · 21/10/2019 18:40

But @Walkingdeadfangirl , I've been boring everyone rigid for months with my call on here for exactly what is in this deal for NI. Am I not allowed to criticise the shabby way Johnson has conducted himself?

GhostofFrankGrimes · 21/10/2019 18:42

Howabout the neo liberal economics of the last 40 years have been championed by the Tories. Deregulation, outsourcing, privatisation, trade union rights curtailed - all hallmarks of Tory governments.

If Brexit is a working class revolution why did Liverpool, Manchester, Newcastle and Glasgow reject it? Watford gap my arse

MeganBacon · 21/10/2019 18:46

Why are remainers not more worried about how utterly dire the situation will be if democracy is successfully obstructed and we end up remaining? There really is no alternative but to leave now because the unrest caused by having democracy denied will be justifiably much greater than the unrest remainers currently feel because the results of a democratic vote have gone against them. These two causes of unrest are in no way equal. The situation can and would get much worse than it currently is. No-one can turn the clock back to 2016 - there is no argument for revoke or a second vote other than wishful thinking, we have to honour the result. All these arguments about "what type of leave" or "we are all going to be poorer" or "I wanted the automatic right to work abroad" mean very little compared to honouring the result.