Westminstenders: DUP says no

[TheMShip]

I don't really feel qualified to start a Westminstenders thread but we need a new one....

Also certain industries will pull plug in UK as they can't get access to EU market.

So there will be a brain drain too as living standards will be a driver to move abroad.

Yet Labour was in power for over 10 years and done nothing about it

Ahh I see your confusion New Labour were in power, its easier to think of them for all the good that they did and they did do some good things I will concede that Tory Lite

RedToothBrush They can also pull the plug when the EU offer other nations free trade deal, with no need for a European base

I wonder if we could just make a second referendum about the nations favourite colour instead ?
And have an orchestrated campaign against, say, yellow...how wishy washy it is, can only be associated with (cowardy) custard, is the colour of piss, doesn't suit any colouring, is the choice of anti democratic evil dictators. No chance of yellow getting picked after that.

So there will be a brain drain too as living standards will be a driver to move abroad.

Don't be silly.

It's going to be so much better here after Brexit - BoZo himself said that, the Sunlit Uplands and all. That, plus the fact that the entire UK population comprises 17.4 million people so well-informed that they foresaw everything that would ensue from their vote, means that there will definitely not be a brain drain.

Sammy Wilson MP
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Conservative & Unionist MPs must take a stand for the Union and join us in rejecting this deal. Internal & burdensome trade barriers will be erected within the UK without parallel consent from both unionists & nationalists. This is not Brexit.

catfromjapan

You can dress it up however you like, but we both know that this deal is in political terms a masterstroke, a coup de main, as our friends on the Continent might say. Boris turned his fortunes around within one week of his meeting with Varadkar, and that whizzing sound you hear is the opposition’s heads still spinning around in utter confusion...

“It wasn’t meant to be this way ... we had him, we had him!”

But you never did.

But we already have beige. As the lights gradually dim, it will appear to change hue.
alternatively

He's going to win, he's going to be unbearable and he will walk all over us for as long as he likes. I'm so fucked off.

"Johnson tweaks to May's deal make a gradual erosion workers’ and consumers’ easier."

Those changes aren't "tweaks": they've completely changed the deal

and BJ - if he wins a 5-year term can pass a law the day after transition ends and abolish all the rights that the USA wants gone:
workers rights, consumer rights, envionmental regs
and another law making the NHS pay the same prices for meds that BIg Pharma has in the US

No need for "gradual" erosion, other than possible domestic political considerations - and he'll probably convince the public that a US FTA will give us Britannia Unchained

CendrillonSings

I read it as Johnson was penned in by the Benn act, personally - he needed to get a deal - any deal - for Saturday, hence the rapid capitulation over any and all EU demands. Hardly a masterstroke!

Just seen a scary comment on another thread that the DUP might not vote against the deal - they might just abstain. Sammy Wilson was interviewed and studiously avoided saying that they would vote against - just that they would not support the deal.

That would also mean at least one pseudo Labour MP (the odious Hoey) also abstaining

Makes the number crunching even more difficult

@Hester54 - what area is that?

Cendrillon I admit that a Conservative & Unionist PM so comprehensively selling out NI was never on my horizon

Of course Varadkar was never going to refuse that kind of offer and the EU always left the NI issue up to him to agree on.

Court of Appeal has rejected Liberty's bid to stop BJ's deal. They'll give their written judgement later.

That's what I thought they'd do - but they have to go by the law, not morality

mrslaughan Lincolnshire

Motheroffourdragons Wouldn’t it be best to accept the deal, then Labour etc can go for a concert & a GE, then we can see where we end up, rather than delays after delays, doing nothing is sometimes worse than not doing anything

Lost a long rant about twitter commentary and the claims this new WA happening is unexpected. It was the natural consequence of the Benn Act making them actually do what they were claiming to avoid it. Plus killing their own majority made jettisoning NI pretty obvious too.

pretty If the DUP don't all vote against this WA, then Arlene might as well hoist the Irish flag
imo, This WA really is that bad for NI Unionism

SInn Fein & the SDLP must be pinching themselves to check it's not a dream

If this WA passes, then Varadkar will be prominant in Irish history books

Fintan O'Toole@fotoole

It really is remarkable that the NI backstop is no longer an insurance policy - it is just policy.

The safety net is to become the status quo.

Court of Appeal has rejected Liberty's bid to stop BJ's deal. They'll give their written judgement later.

It’s almost as if Parliament, not the Courts, is there to make the law. Crazy, no?

Cendrillon Your psychological survival defences are kicking in.

You'd prefer to tell yourself this is an example of cunning victory than see it for what it is: a defeated, desperate and utterly amoral Johnson offering the UK up on a plate to all-comers.

It's not a nice image is it?

And it's something I guess you helped facilitate - going Ali g with the comforting narrative of 'making Britain Great'.

But it's the truth.

And I guess you are turning cartwheels trying to avoid it.

You'll have to excuse my unwillingness to facilitate your delusion.

"I believe it will end up eventually with us having left with no deal at all."

Mother I don't, because this WA gives the ERG Brexshitters all they want for their Mombai-on-Thames+

• which is why it's such a terrible deal.

The vulture capitalists could have written this WA - and maybe did give BJ his orders

The GDP forecast after the minimalist EU trade deal they plan is nearly the same as after No Deal

The only ERG / Tories who would vote against would do so because of NI

thecatfromjapan

I’m afraid only one side is staring defeat in the face, and that’s the left. As you can tell by the fact that they’re the ones in utter panic today

It's really important that anybody who can possibly make it to the march tomorrow turn up and be counted.

The numbers are tight and mps who should know better are wavering - they will be less inclined to vote against their own interests, their parties beliefs and their constituents welfare if there is a million strong mob peaceful demo baying outside the chamber.