Westminstenders: Pro Rogues

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The Pro Rogues plan to prorogue again this week.

The Queen might be challenged to sack Johnson. Or he might be forced to extend.

It depends on which newspaper you read. Either way it strikes you that no one really knows what's going to happen...

more civilised nations

Interesting turn of phrase there, very telling unless you'd like to expand before I get judgy?

There is still another Scottish court case due to pronounce later this week (thank goodness for Scots law ) on whether the court could, in effect, "pp" a letter requesting the extension if BJ refuses to obey the law won't send it, using nobile officium .

Anti-Brexit campaigners have failed in an attempt to force Boris Johnson to ask for an extension to article 50 if he is unable to get a Brexit deal through parliament.

Lord Pentland, sitting in the court of session in Edinburgh, rejected their request for a court order instructing the prime minister to seek an extension if he cannot get a deal passed by the Commons this month.

Lol.

Basilpots But it’s amazing how people on here talk about a body that has so called kept peace in Europe all this time, but was only formed in 1993, while the UN was formed in 1945

There is still another Scottish court case due to pronounce later this week...

and whither the line from Downing St about "Pro-Remain Scottish Judges."

Alex Andreou
@sturdyAlex
After three years of claiming its readers definitely knew what they voted for and it definitely included leaving the Single Market, the Express TODAY are running - I kid you not - a "BREXIT EXPLAINED: WHAT IS THE SINGLE MARKET? - A SIMPLE GUIDE" piece.

bashes face on keyboard

How much do you contribute to EU membership?

on whether the court could, in effect, "pp" a letter requesting the extension if BJ refuses to obey the law won't send it, using nobile officium

I bet Boris is praying on his hands and knees for that case to succeed - he doesn’t have to resign, there’s no excuse left not to have an election, he can campaign without the chaos of No Deal, and the fact that Scottish judges blocked Brexit will turbocharge his vote in England.

If he’s not secretly funding that case, he should be!

JustAnotherPoster00 No need to get Judgy,
I don’t think any nation at that time want any more conflict, the UN was set up in Oct of 1945 and help with keeping peace

Justanother - best response is to ignore his/her attempts to goad.

He/she is just trying to get a rise out of us.

Don't give him/her the satisfaction

prettybird Not goading, just have a different opinion to people that want to pin the EU with controlling peace in Europe ( only set up in 1993)

PMK, it feels very 'calm before storm'

Cendrillon - maybe this will give you a better understanding;

"Boris triumphs over Court bid to force him to comply with the Benn Act by giving unequivocal legal assurances that he will comply with Benn Act

Accepts

• will write extension letter, if no deal vote by 19/10
• accept EU extension if offered
• not act to frustrate Act's purpose"

Going beyond the headline doesn't assist Cendrillon's apparently remain cause, however.

Thank you Basilpots

I was wondering if it meant that they didn't have to follow the Benn act.

It's all too confusing.

Care to make an argument against my point about the nobile officium? I’ll make this prediction right now: if it succeeds, and the Scottish court sends the extension request in Boris’ name, then a Conservative victory is nailed on in the GE.

Worrying report from Peston:

The government was supposed to confirm tomorrow that EU rules on state aid (ie prohibition on supposedly unfair subsidies) would remain in force after 31 October. Downing Street has cancelled the announcement. Which is a clear sign Johnson, Cummings, Lister all now assume...

UK is leaving EU on 31 October without a deal, that EU is poised to reject Johnson’s offer. Without the EU state aid constraints, Treasury could pump money into any businesses affected by no deal that need temporary support

No - it's the opposite Dusty -it means that the government has promised faithfully given assurances to the court that it will comply with the Benn Act.

So unless they have worked out a cunning way to avoid its obligations - or to meet its obligations so that it can avoid sending an extension letter (only way to avoid doing this is to get a deal agreed - in theory at least ) - then an extension letter will have to be sent.

DH is off replenishing our no deal stockpile today. I'm so tired of this shit.

Yes I read that as well in same way

While the average person on the street will just have to manage if no deal on 31st as government already said not their responsibility about food. Worrying

⚡️remember not to feed the thread invaders⚡️

Been lurking for a few threads... Its moving to fast for me to keep up...

When I read the comments on the BBC article to this, the Brexiteers seem to be really made up. Why?

It's all so confusing.

the Brexiteers seem to be really made up. Why?

Presumably because they're not reading beyond the headlines. That or they're happy for Johnson to break the law so that we can get tougher on law breakers or some other twisted reason they've tied themselves into

And I still can't work out how they are going to get a no deal on 31st.

Is that what you're saying all that means Mship? The report from Peston?

How are they going to get a no deal on 31st?

Peachi
When I read the comments on the BBC article to this, the Brexiteers seem to be really made up.
Because they think that Brexit is an Amazon parcel not a Baby
Once you work out the truth, delivery seems a much smaller part of the process