Westminstenders: The Tory Party Spectacular

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A row over parliamentary language and conduct and how MPs are afraid of extremists has over shadowed talk of Brexit.

Cummings has said if you don't want to leave without a deal, vote for a deal.

Yet there isn't a Johnson approved one in front of the Commons and the EU are utterly despairing of Johnson's blank non papers and his full on Trump bullshit.

Then there's the threats to the rule of law.

Apparently there are five known suggestions to bypass the Benn Act and refuse to ask for an extension.
See Twitter Thread Here

This weekend sees the start of the Tory Party Conference. With a parliamentary vote to block a recess, its rather scuppered plans for the rest of the conference. Johnson's planned speech at the conference clashes with PMQ so he may well not attend the Commons.

Expect the conference to be.... Er... Inflammatory...

Ken is about to accompany me on a rather wet dog walk thanks for the heads up Dried

Love Political thinking.

It made me feel a bit more hopeful

But DGR if you don't believe the over 130 eye witness reports of seeing drones.

I didn't say I didn't believe it. I wasn't there.

But I am aware some people have expressed doubts. How valid ... I have no idea, but I strive to be wary of taking any single point of view in anything I have no direct experience of.

Just to start, I'm take your "130 people", but what did they see ?

I try to steer the middle way, all the way

Besides which, it's slightly irrelevant now, since the police have given up.

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Despite fears of getting into conspiracy theories, events do seem to be following Dugin's fascist textbook for the Russian military

Especially one of the key steps:
"The UK should be cut off from Europe"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundationsoff_Geopolitics

"Dugin,[3] a Russian eurasianist, fascist[4] and nationalist[5] who has developed a close relationship with Russia's Academy of the General Staff.[6]
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Military operations play relatively little role.

The textbook advocates a sophisticated program of subversion, destabilization, and disinformation spearheaded by the Russian special services.
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The book states that "the maximum task [of the future] is the 'Finlandizationn*' of all of Europe".[9]
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The United Kingdom should be cut off from Europe.[9]"

I'm a German GP and I'm having to review my circumstances

www.pulsetoday.co.uk/views/blogs/im-a-german-gp-and-im-having-to-review-my-circumstances/20039397.article?fbclid=IwAR1v5vmGUGITJyWWyCahw1_xzv7QEv9nO6NneZ0QiYmjjk2ZO9QpJt1nLWY

Basil Thanks for the link.
This struck me as kind of a problem ! :

(All voters)

"If the only two options available were leaving the EU with no deal or a Labour government with Jeremy Corbyn as Prime Minister,
48% would choose a no-deal Brexit and 35% a Corbyn-led government."

(All voters)

I dont remember being asked

Blair's "Tanks" (Scimitar armoured cars) were on one level absurd. A 30mm Rarden Cannon would make short work of Terminal 3, which was due for demolition so maybe they wanted to start early.

But on another level, it may have had a deterrent effect on the "4 Lions" type of fuckwit we have seen in so many cases.

As the man said, 'Eye-Cating Initiatives with bite I personally can be associated with...'

I know BCF Corbyn is for a max of 5 years.

Brexit is for life.

Worse case scenario they could end up with JC dealing with the aftermath of a no deal Brexit.

So the 40 new hospitals that turn out to be not 40 are now to be paid for by money we do not yet have

Unsurprisingly, I wasn't watching Johnson on Marr, but I saw someone on Twitter noting that he'd let slip that they'd be seeking 'seed money' for these marvellous new edifices.

'Seed money' = private hospitals. Not NHS.

If a labour MP is going to aTory conference and is blatantly supporting them, isn’t that a case fir dismissal (or whatever the word is) from the Labour Party??

...technically not at the conference but at a fringe meeting. Often happens on single-issues that cut across party lines.

Poster00 Looks like they asked Cendrillon though !

BCF

Re hospitals - I suspect these "new" hospitals will largely be made up of those 'mostly complete' together with a spattering of those, like my local, who have been offered by local developers, to have a "new hospital" built for them. These "new" hospitals tend to be boxes with various badly thought through designs (no medical knowledge) and odd suffixes of "Dementia wing" where apparently those suffering have an open door onto a main road...Let's not go into building materials or loss of parkland frequented by locals who don't want more expansion (our A&E has also been closed in last 4 years). Of course, local developer is doing this from pure care in the community, nowt to do with profit...

I think she is standing down as a Labour MP at the next election.

Perhaps they think that removing the whip/chucking her out would just give her free publicity, generate unhelpful headlines.

I agree that she has actually said she won't vote Labour it would be an open and shut case, but maybe she hasn't technically crossed any lines?

Or as I said earlier ‘new’ hospitals will just be finishing the ones already half built.

The Dudley one should have been signed off to new contractors in July. Cynic in me thinks it’s been delayed because so it can get lumped in with this latest fairy story.

Hoey's not standing at the next GE
and fringe meetings are OK - just not if she speaks at the conference itself

The sacking offence - removing the Labour whip - could be justified by votes she has made breaking 3-line whips and supporting the Tory govt.

re possible defection:
Her heart is with the DUP, so joining the Tories in a big splash this conference is most unlikely
< ... waits for the news headlines that I got that one wrong ! >

She finds the Labour "skin" a useful one

I agree that "IF" she has actually said she won't vote Labour

Don't need a new hospital here, but we'd quite like them not to close Poole A&E so everyone has to go to Bournemouth on congested roads. And before you say helicopter, they closed Portland Coastguard station so that has to come all the way from Devon.

The new hospitals pledge may be BJ playing with models in boxes again

< to clarify, I mean models of hospitals, not the female human model ! >

So with the news today Farage is indeed standing as an MP any thoughts on where ?

Presumably not against a Brexiteer ?

I see it didn't take long for the BXP to expel their first MEP for conduct unbecoming.

I thought you couldn't be an MP and an MEP at the same time?