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as for never reading what I or any other leaver has posted really illustrates the issue why Remainers never understand why people want to leave

Lol! if only you'd read what i'd written, i haven't read what YOU have to say.
Plenty of leavers are worth reading, you're not and your last few posts prove why.

I guess i pissed you off under a different name and you've now come back to name call?

Don't think i've called anyone one stupid here have i?..... but always a first time!!!

frumpety no sash, unless you’re a closet Arlene fan.

The benefits have been listed and detailed.

It's clear the posters on here are incapable of actually digesting and reading them so we are stuck in an unpleasant ground hog day

Mn usually interesting place to chew fat. But when posters think that this is actually vital talk that could change brexit it ruins that.

Inflated sense of self. Ergo the eu really

No sense of pulling out when not wanted ergo.. The eu

No sense of basic decency ergo the eu.

imnot I really CBA to persue this with you.

You, and every other Leaver, know damn that you can’t explain why Leaving is worthwhile.

I’ve long since accepted that but I won’t listen to bollocks about how ‘it’s all been explained before’

It really hasn’t.

You want this - you, and the rest of us will pay the price.

The benefits have been listed and detailed.

Please humour me with a summary?

And saying “taking back control of our laws, our borders and our money” doesn’t really cut the mustard.

The benefits have been listed and detailed.
As if.

Article 50 requires member states to leave in conformity with its own constitutional requirements. EU law

It has been established in law that GFA does not form part of UK constitution.

Protecting the GFA has to be the highest priority - something Boris keeps forgetting.

Trump is reported as being enthusiastic about a no deal exit (not surprising considering his lack of knowledge of world affairs) but the UK won’t get its free trade deal with America passed in the US Congress if Brexit undermines the Good Friday Agreement. This has come in a statement from Nancy Pelosi.

Nancy Pelosi has released a statement reiterating that there will be “no chance” of a deal getting the congressional approval it needs unless the Irish border remains “seamless”.

It has been established in law that GFA does not form part of UK constitution.

And yet it establishes a protocol for changing the UK constitution.

Boris moved to scrap Environment safe guards to get a deal with Trump
Even if he did get a deal, what will the Uk have to promise get it?

@Voila212 - Trump can promise all he likes but it won’t pass Congress approval. US politics is in the same mess as the UK.

Would be interested to see where “in law” it has been established that the GFA dies not form part of the UK constitution, given that:

The Agreement was approved by concurrent referendums in Northern Ireland and Ireland in May 1998 and was subsequently incorporated into British and Irish constitutional law and other areas of legislation.

ContinuityError don't be quoting facts now, the Leavers don't like them!

Bercows - I’m guessing that Mystery hasn’t actually read the GFA either, given that it is clearly about the constitutional status of part of the UK. It even has a section titled “Constitutional Issues”.

mystery - with his disgusting views on the Irish - is still visiting the thread I see, despite being deleted for his abhorrent views yesterday and despite the fact that he won't be affected one iota by Brexit or its fallout.

Chew on this, mystery:

“Congress will not support any bilateral trade agreement with the United Kingdom if the government abandons its commitment to the Good Friday Agreement...”

Oh I know but even if there was a tiny chance there could be a deal what Trump wants Boris to concede is horrendous. Food quality, the environment and workers rights are all up for negotiation.

I was tempted to report Mystery 's "Ireland doesn't care about the Holocaust/Germany wants to take over the world" post but I decided not to that people can see exactly what kind of meaningless nasty shit Mystery is peddling.

“Congress will not support any bilateral trade agreement with the United Kingdom if the government abandons its commitment to the Good Friday Agreement...”

If a deal is made that leaves the border open and UK makes FTA with US, is that not a big risk for Ireland?

All sorts of questionable goods could pass from NI into Ireland. Once in Ireland such goods could appear anywhere in EU.

Any outbreak of disease or epidemic in EU from goods exported from Ireland would be to Irelands account for failure to control.

So I am not convinced that the threat from congress is the card to play.

If a deal is made that leaves the border open and UK makes FTA with US, is that not a big risk for Ireland?

Hence the current proposals for a second border in the Irish Sea.

Any outbreak of disease or epidemic in EU from goods exported from Ireland would be to Irelands account for failure to control.

There are already strict checks for live animals and products of animal origin moving from GB to NI to prevent the introduction or spread of animal diseases. Did you really not know this?

There are already strict checks for live animals and products of animal origin moving from GB to NI to prevent the introduction or spread of animal diseases. Did you really not know this?

Meant goods arriving in NI directly without passing through UK mainland.

Meant goods arriving in NI directly without passing through UK mainland.

Yeah, right.

Current proposal is that NI effectively stays in the single market, so imports would need to be in EU regulatory compliance.

And any live animals or products of animal origin from outwith GB (either from the EU or the approved non-EU countries) are still subject to the import procedures.

Current proposal is that NI effectively stays in the single market, so imports would need to be in EU regulatory compliance

NI will become a smuggling paradise. At present checks are about 1%.

And any live animals or products of animal origin from outwith GB (either from the EU or the approved non-EU countries) are still subject to the import procedures

Which requires border control.

NI will become a smuggling paradise. At present checks are about 1%.

Of course it will. And given that smuggling is a major cash raiser for terrorist organisations, what do you think will happen?

The UK Government said that border controls would be needed in NI in March 2016, before the Referendum.

Which was dismissed as “Project Fear” by the then NI Secretary Theresa Villiers.

www.irishnews.com/news/politicalnews/2016/03/04/news/villiers-contradicts-her-own-government-s-border-post-claim-438978/

Which requires border control.

Already done at port of entry.

Northern Ireland’s chief constable has said his police officers could be killed if they had to patrol border checkpoints in the event of a hard Brexit.
Simon Byrne told the Guardian he opposed officers having to patrol checkpoints on a physical border between Northern Ireland and the Republic and said officers who were already under huge strain would be placed in danger policing any checkpoints.