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Westministenders: The Non Re-Opening Of Parliament

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RedToothBrush · 24/09/2019 19:40

Parliament will reconvene tomorrow, at 11.30am, as if proroguation never happened as the Supreme Court ruled that the government acted outside the limits of its power and this was therefore unlawful.

The most senior court in the UK has ruled unaminously to defend Parliamentary Sovereignity and the Rule of British Law.

Unusually for a Wednesday there will be no PMQ, however there will be time for Ministerial Statements, UQ and Debate under S024.
See the abbreviation thread if you are struggling with these

So tomorrow is sure to be explosive on way or another.

The Government is hitting back by questioning the Supreme Court whilst also saying they respect the Supreme Court's authority. This is an oxymoron. Its being done for political reasons and is, in its own way, a direct threat to the Rule of Law.

Robert Buckland is, again, having to do a lot in Cabinet to assert the point of the importance of the Rule of Law and how it prevents mob rule. Something that seems to keep getting forgotten by anonymous No 10 sources.

The political fallout from the ruling is sure to lead to calls for the Supreme Court to be politically elected. This has been a long term goal of parts of the hard right.

Johnson, is currently in the US, so the announcement that parliament will be back tomorrow has rather spoilt his jolly to see his mate Donnie. He will have to get on a plane smartish.

But for all the hard talk there will also be ramifications for Johnson. Whilst there will be a lot of 'nothing has changed', and there is no chance of a VoNC in the HoC being tabled by the opposition whilst no deal is still on the table on the 31st Oct, there will still be problems for Johnson.

There will be a post mortem within his own party. The next Cabinet Meeting will almost certainly be explosive. There are already attempts to set Geoffrey Cox, the Attorney General who apparently advised that proroguation was lawful, under the bus as the fall guy. This will perhaps be a deflection to try and protect Dominic Cummings, as there will be moderate Tories who will seek to use this as an opportunity to have him sacked. But more than this, its likely to result in other Cabinet Ministers being more forceful and to challenge Johnson more, both for their own political gain and for their own political protection. He will certainly be more questioned from within, about his poor judgement.

We also have him facing an investigation from the London Assembly over his conduct and suggestions of an inappropriate relationship with a busty blonde American woman.

Next weeks Conservative Party Conference is now in tatters. Whilst Corbyn has wrapped up the Labour Party Conference early to avoid a clash with Parliament being open, Johnson is stuffed. Next week's PMQ will clash with the schedule for his Party Speech. Normally parliament would be in recess for the conference season, but parliament has to vote to allow this. And there isn't a majority for the Conservatives to now be able to do this. So Parliament almost certainly will be sitting next week.

Unfortunately, the Tories are a little stuffed with their conference being held in Manchester. If (and lets face it, with the gloves off and time short) the opposition want to cause mischief, they will try and schedule crucial and embarassing debates during the party conference, to keep MPs stuck in Westminister as much as possible. And with good reason under the circumstances.

We still have the small matter of the 31st October deadline which Johnson is still sticking to saying we will either have a deal or we will leave without a deal - unlawfully.

Remember on that note, Johnson has already acted beyond his power and unlawfully on the basis of bad advice. Johnson being hulk, rather than a girly swat, relies on the advice of others more heavily than his own wisdom and experience - of which he has been exposed time and again - to be somewhat lacking in.

As a side note, its also worth reflecting on the NCA having dropped charges in relation to Leave.Eu and how the Electoral Commission has commented on this decision:
"We are concerned about the apparent weakness in the law, highlighted by this investigation outcome, which allows overseas funds into UK politics. We have made recommendations that would tighten the rules on campaign funding and deter breaches. We urge the UK's governments to act on those recommendations to support voter confidence"

In the context of an imminent General Election, this is really very concerning indeed.

Just WHO is in control? Cos it doesn't look like its Boris Johnson right now, thats for sure.

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Motheroffourdragons · 25/09/2019 19:05

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tobee · 25/09/2019 19:06

when i hear BJ speak all I see is a nasty bully

That's what some of us think but others will probably be seeing it as socking it to the man.

Bearbehind · 25/09/2019 19:06

when i hear BJ speak all I see is a nasty bully.

But you don’t agree with what he’s saying.

I don’t either and I can see through it but the thing that most Remainers don’t seem to comprehend is that, if you believe in all this shit, BJ is up on a pedestal and can do no wrong.

This is only pushing us towards no deal.

prettybird · 25/09/2019 19:08

BJCummings trying really hard to make it personal about JC and to provoke him into retaliating and doing something silly in reaction.

It's not working. Shame Grin

derxa · 25/09/2019 19:08

I love Ian Blackford's rhetoric.

Random18 · 25/09/2019 19:10

Bear yes that is obvious from comments that I seen on MSM or local news.

However a lot of people hold their own counsel. I am not convinced that the majority really support him.

And thank God for the Scots. I am not.Blackfords biggest fan but he does make BJ look uncomfortable.

Motheroffourdragons · 25/09/2019 19:10

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ratsnest · 25/09/2019 19:12

That's what some of us think but others will probably be seeing it as socking it to the man.

Quite a turnaround that Corbyn is now seen as the man.

Mind you, I'm appalled that I can now watch Gove speak without alternating between angry vitriol and the heebie-jeebies. (That honour is given wholeheartedly to blowjobcum-reesmug)

squid4 · 25/09/2019 19:12

Corbyn just looks like a prime minister here. All I'm seeing online is "well I'm not a fan of corbyn BUT"
Johnson is doing worst than I ever could have imagined. Hysterical nonsense. Like a toddler.

Bearbehind · 25/09/2019 19:12

I am not convinced that the majority really support him.

The ‘majority’ don’t need to.

A majority who bother their arse to vote need to vote for him and or BXP

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thecatfromjapan · 25/09/2019 19:14

I've noticed a real Leaver split on social media.
There's a core on Twitter who are trying to rally the fleeing rats to the sinking Johnson with dire warnings that to fail Johnson is to let Farage in.

Not sure about the logic of that one.

tobee · 25/09/2019 19:17

Interesting to see posters differing opinions as to who has done well, while reading this thread but not watching.

Who's done the best?

BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 25/09/2019 19:18

The hatred in Dodds eyes for Corbyn.

Bearbehind · 25/09/2019 19:20

Who's done the best?

If you support leave - Johnson

If you support Remain - er.......Bercow - because Corbyn isn’t actually offering a viable alternative.

LouiseCollins28 · 25/09/2019 19:20

Best speech so far Ian Blackford for me, right until the point he got dangerously close to accusing Boris of lying and got told off by the speaker

mrslaughan · 25/09/2019 19:21

I am trying to catch up - Reading the thread and watching channel 4 news. The saj looks like a broken man - very unhappy. At one point he looked like my dog when he knows he has done something v v wrong and is in serious trouble.....

prettybird · 25/09/2019 19:21

Apparently Barry Sheerman is normally quite calm (so dh tells me according to Twitter). So his anger truly came from heart.

Bearbehind · 25/09/2019 19:22

Yay for Hillary Benn - he’s just made BJ look an epic twat.

Belindabelle · 25/09/2019 19:22

I was singing “I fought the law” yesterday. I don’t know if I am flattered or insulted that Ian Blackford and I share the same taste in music.

NotaRealLawyer · 25/09/2019 19:23

I was watching Dodds also Bercows, death ray stare it was.

prettybird · 25/09/2019 19:24

I know it's the convention in the HoP that honourable gentlemen and women must not be accused of lying.

....but when they do lie, surely they should be called out as such, and euphemisms should not have to be used. Confused

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NotaRealLawyer · 25/09/2019 19:24

Yvette Cooper. Go girl, calling him out.

ratsnest · 25/09/2019 19:25

@mrslaughan I was thinking the same, he looks like a shell of a man tonight