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Westministenders: Boris Johnson Broke The Law

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RedToothBrush · 24/09/2019 11:05

ITS OFFICIAL
The Highest Court in the Land has ruled that Boris Johnson has broken the law.

Parliament is Sovereign.

Despite the calls for his resignation it is highly unlikely he will under the current political climate.

It must be stressed that the judgement was UNAMINOUS and went further than most expected, and took the hardest possible line again the government

The power now lies with the Speakers of the Lords and Commons to decide when Parliament reopens.

It also means that all the bills which were ended by proroguation are now back in play.

Expect a full backlash from the hard right attacking the courts are going full on 'enemies of the people'. This will be NASTY

The strength of this ruling does pretty much rule out another proroguation as the courts are liable to throw it out immediately if they try it on again.

Johnson is in New York. He needs to get on a plane very quickly.

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RedToothBrush · 24/09/2019 16:33

The Saj was my first thought.

But there is a queue willing Johnson to fuck it up.

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MockersthefeMANist · 24/09/2019 16:34

Ooooooh, Me, I want to be Captain of the Titanic next!!!

BigChocFrenzy · 24/09/2019 16:34

BJ is / was v popular among Tory members,
but MPs only put him in the last 2 runoff because they thought he could win a GE and save their seats

Unlike Labour, Tories are ruthless about dumping even a previously successful leader - which MrsT was and BJ isn't - who has become a liability

BJ has few friends among MPs, so if they did decide he is no lniger a GE-winner ....
what could save him is that having FOUR Tory PMs in just over 3 years would not be a good look
and would also scupper the No Deal Brexit dream of the ERG

BackInTime · 24/09/2019 16:35

I suspect cracks are slowly starting to show as the rats consider if they should desert a sinking ship

MockersthefeMANist · 24/09/2019 16:36

The rats left ages ago. We're left with the cockroaches.

RedToothBrush · 24/09/2019 16:36

YouGov @YouGov
The Supreme Court have said that Prime Minister Boris Johnson acted unlawfully in proroguing Parliament. Do you agree or disagree with the ruling?
Agree - 49%
Disagree - 30%

Westministenders: Boris Johnson Broke The Law
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TheElementsSong · 24/09/2019 16:36

become a Cox-Sacker?

GrinGrinGrin

RedToothBrush · 24/09/2019 16:36

YouGov @yougov
Do you think Boris Johnson should or should not resign?
He should - 43%
He should not - 39%

Westministenders: Boris Johnson Broke The Law
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prettybird · 24/09/2019 16:37

Pumpkinspice- the SNP Conference is 13-15 October, so they were never going to be covered by the recess even if Parliament had voted for the recess Confused

I suspect that the MPs will only be therefor the 1st day and maybe the morning of the 2nd, before flying down to London from Aberdeen.

DGRossetti · 24/09/2019 16:39

But there is a queue willing Johnson to fuck it up

The problem with getting into power making enemies left right and centre is that you end up having to distrust everyone ...

For all the Boris bluster, the only thing that he can do if he's not happy with SCOTUK is to draft a bill for parliament to approve changing the law.

Grieve was quite emphatic that any attempt to re-prorogue parliament extraordrinarily would be struck out immediately, following this judgement. He is a QC, so knows a bit about how the law works. That's before you consider that the palace/monarch/queen will resist any further attempts to get drawn into the fray.

RedToothBrush · 24/09/2019 16:39

Time for Jezza's hastily rewritten speech...

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MockersthefeMANist · 24/09/2019 16:39

"Nixon is a Cox-Sacker" was a popular T-Shirt at the time.

Halfeatentoast · 24/09/2019 16:40

Guardian:

David Howarth, a former Lib Dem MP and a professor of law at Cambridge University, has been in touch to say he thinks I was wrong to dismiss the prospects of a humble address being used by MPs to get rid of the prime minister. (See 3.37pm.) He writes:

A humble address to ask the monarch to dismiss the prime minister is far from impossible. Fox’s supporters moved similar motions against Pitt in 1784 for example. On that occasion, before the modern idea of confidence had firmed up, the King refused to dismiss Pitt and Pitt refused to resign, but it is difficult to see how a modern prime minister, at least one with a shred of honour, could stay on.

RuffleCrow · 24/09/2019 16:40

He's gotta go. So has Corbyn for that matter. Political dinosaurs the pair of them. We'll get a nondescript John Major type to replace him, Brexit will take a serious hammering and then hopefully we'll get a nice moderate Blair-Before-Iraq style Labour PM. Never thought I'd be nostalgic for New Labour but here we are. Hopefully Keir Starmer is thinking of stepping up.

RedToothBrush · 24/09/2019 16:40

Beth Rigby@bethrigby
And in case you’re wondering, I hear that the prime minister is absolutely furious about all of this. This prorogation plan couldn’t have gone worse. Awful own goal that has triggered a series of mini-crises for Johnson culminating with a rebuke from the highest court in the land

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BigChocFrenzy · 24/09/2019 16:40

Note the polarisation in that poll:

Leave / Tory voters have a v similar majority who disagree with the ruling
while overwhelming approval among all other voters
hence the 49:30 approval among all voters

Labour voters have a higher disapproval than Remain voters, but still only 13% compared to 8%

DGRossetti · 24/09/2019 16:41

BJ is / was v popular among Tory members

Are you a tory shill Grin ? I couldn't give a fetid dingoes kidneys about Tory members. It was the supporters I was thinking off. The blue rinse ladies (and gents) who are the backbone of middle England.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/09/2019 16:42

Baldrick's cunning plans always ended up like this too

MockersthefeMANist · 24/09/2019 16:42

"BJ was popular with the membership..."

Remember that episode of the Simpsons with the monorail?

Halfeatentoast · 24/09/2019 16:43

Awful own goal that has triggered a series of mini-crises for Johnson culminating with a rebuke from the highest court in the land
.... and the weasel/reverse ferret Farrage tut tutting. Rats leaving a sinking ship springs to mind.

mrslaughan · 24/09/2019 16:43

@mummmy2017 - is English your first language? It's a serious question.....

pumkinspicetime · 24/09/2019 16:43

Pumpkinspice- the SNP Conference is 13-15 October, so they were never going to be covered by the recess even if Parliament had voted for the recess 

I wasn't very clear. I was trying to say that a parliamentary recess wasn't essential for a party conference, the SNP were managing without one.
Therefore I would not expect the SNP to vote to give the conservatives more time off for theirs, given the Tories have illegally just wasted parliamentary time.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/09/2019 16:45

DG I was just assessing BJ's survival prospects - the members would be pissed with their MPs if they try to give him the boot

I wasn't replying to your comment. Babe Smile

DGRossetti · 24/09/2019 16:46

And in case you’re wondering, I hear that the prime minister is absolutely furious about all of this. This prorogation plan couldn’t have gone worse. Awful own goal that has triggered a series of mini-crises for Johnson culminating with a rebuke from the highest court in the land

er, second highest, really.

It's all a far cry from Theresa Mays plan to use acts of attainder a couple of years ago, isn't it.

I for one, am really, really, really pleased that Boris is "absolutely furious". Let's hope it can be ratcheted up more. Because one thing we all know about Boris, is how calm and collected he is, and how the chances of him doing something really stupid will diminish the more furious he gets. Much like the Hulk.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/09/2019 16:47

Farage & Cummings hate each other, so Farage was always going to look for any chance to put the knife into Cummings

And after BJ's insulting rejection of his pact offer, Farage won't be feeling the love for BJ either

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