How will your life be better after Brexit?

[BertrandRussell]

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79 food banks? This BBC article says there are 2000 in the UK.

You can't compare the two numbers though. They are counting different things.

One positive of Brexit might be less cut and paste cluttering up perfectly good threads.

Hope you're right mistigri

Maybe this is the wake up call we need. Millions of tonnes of food wasted every year, we cost the NHS millions of pounds a year in missed appointments then moan that the NHS needs more money and we don't want it privatised. We take so much for granted so if Brexit makes us think and act more responsibly that must be a good thing.

I also like the idea of having seasonal local fruit. Who wants strawberries from Spain in December, they are so tasteless.

About the only benefit I could think of, is that the Government owns its own actions. So not the nasty EU doesn't let us do this that or the other, or makes us do this that or the other, but yes, it's our responsibility in Westminster. So Health Service crumbling - not the mythical £350 million a week that we don't send to the EU, but an actual £350 million a week which we have instead chosen to spend on tax cuts for the wealthy, Trident , whatever you think the Government wastes your money on.

Clavinova
Your comparison of number of food banks is irrelevant.
However:

There are over 1,200 food banks in the UK run by the Trussell Trust.
Research shows that is about 2/3 of UK food banks.
source
In France, the FFBA provides food aid to a network of 5400 associations and social aid centres. However, the density of population is hugely different in the UK and in France, with more distribution points obviously necessary in the latter country.
source

There are around 2m food bank users in France.
source

There are an estimated 4m adult food bank users in the UK.
source

Pop. of France (DOM-TOM) included: 67,106,161 ( I don't have data on food bank use in DOM-TOM. I'd suspect it's lower than in metropolitan France, due to social structure, but haven't time right now to get figures)
Pop. of UK: 64,769,452
source

“Who wants strawberries from Spain in December, they are so tasteless.”

Gosh yes, it’s awful how the EU forces us all to buy them

So we now have Brexitteers who were talking about how good Brexit will be - now saying how good hardship caused by Brexit will be?

Is that right?

seasonal local fruit.

For the U.K., this effectively means NO fruit for about six months a year.

Who wants strawberries from Spain in December, they are so tasteless.

Poor Mamamia, the suffering is real.

For the U.K., this effectively means NO fruit for about six months a year.

For the Brexitteer, this is brilliant news.

we cost the NHS millions of pounds a year in missed appointments then moan that the NHS needs more money and we don't want it privatised.

Let's examine this a little further shall we? I say this with a DH who had two letters offering him appointments on the same day, and two cancelling, all arriving in the same post, leaving him flummoxed as to when his appointment was. Or me, getting a letter offering a mammogram on the morning of the said test, and no, I wasn't able to drop everything at the last minute. Or the friend who was told she didn't need a follow up appointment, and she and the nurse went to the desk to cancel the said appointment, only to receive a letter a few days later saying that she had missed her appointment and here's another.

So are those missed appointments because people can't be bothered, or are they missed appointments because of sloppy administration? If it's sloppy administration, have you stopped to question why it might be sloppy? Not having up to date computer systems, not being able to pay the wage to get the best staff, high staff turnover because morale is high?

BTW no on is forcing you to buy strawberries from Spain in December. Maybe the trueBelievers could organise a boycott of buying out of season fruit and veg?

Morale is low, that should say!

A huge number of appointments are missed by people being unable to find the location of their appointment because layouts/clinic names/signs are confusing. Plus have you ever tried to contact a clinic and cancel/change the time? It can be impossible to get through. I’m not blaming NHS staff on the ground for this, it’s an organisational problem. It’s not as straightforward as people missing appts because they are not aware of how much it costs.

The only possible advantage i could possibly see with Brexit is that we could train more of our own workforce and give back bursaries to ALL students on healthcare courses, not just nursing.

However, the govt response to both these is negative, they are encouraging more non eu skilled foreign workers to come to the UK, have not introduced bursaries and have no plans to do so and have extended foreign student visas, so more competition for UK students in the graduate workplace.

The NHS appointment-making model is so out of date and is a big cause of missed appointments. I'm in France and if I need to see a specialist, I get a referral letter from my GP and use an app on my phone to book an appointment that fits into my schedule.

No longer having to abide by EU crop rotations/limitations
No EU imposed fishing quotas
Reduction in free movement (although I think this is also a negative)
More border control

So we’ve gone from sunlit uplands to the occasional silver lining......

misti I have booked the odd appointment like that and I agree it has been so much better.

For my mammogram last year I got the offer of wait a while for the local hospital or quicker for one further away. It was good to have the choice (went further and had a day out)

Peregrina - That figure wasn't from hospital appointments, that was from a notice up in my GP surgery from people not bothering to turn up for a GP appointment. Admittedly some people would have been unable to let the GP know if they had been admitted to hospital etc, but if we are including missed hospital appointments then the cost is even greater, even taking into account administration errors.

We have to take the scraps thrown our way.