How will your life be better after Brexit?

[BertrandRussell]

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Ok, big benefit for me personally...

I can't wait to see the tears on Jo Swinson's bulbous face on the 1st November, I will be eternally happy knowing she will have failed completely in the single most important political objective of her life, which is stopping Brexit.

Oh kill me now @Ohflippineck! TBH my main emotion about it all now is just utter boredom. I don't really listen to the news any more and I used to love keeping up with what was going on in the world. Between Brexit and Trump I just want to stick my fingers in my ears and sing La-La-La.

Bulbous face?

Hear she speaks highly of you too.

mamamia456 quite apart from the fact that your user name makes me feel nauseous, you show up on every thread basically being an arse with no real agenda.
But you've crossed a line now. Nobody disses Theelementsong
Nobody likes you. Go away.

@Harabek- what worried you do much about Verhovstadt’s talk to the Lib Dem conference?

I’m ignoring your last post, by the way- it’s a bit horrible.

Nothing. IN fact, I think a lot of things will be worse for us.

Actually I can think of one way in which my life will improve - the news will no longer be saturated with will it, won't it Brexit speculation - since Brexit will have happened.

The news can start speculating about which common food item will go missing from supermarket shelves next, and how long it will be until we get a trade deal. Any trade deal. That'll keep them busy for years!

Sorry Zafferana

People in my family think Brexit means - fewer houses being built on green belt because of immigration. More school places due to less immigration. Easier to get a gp appt, I don’t want to leave EU but these are some reasons people want this. It’s racism basically.

I don’t really like my job and could do with eating less. So it could all work out for me..

Okay got one.

In the long term and after a lot of trauma and god knows how much bloodshed I think Brexit will precipitate a United Ireland.

That’s a positive for me. Even though I’d prefer it didn’t involve so much upheaval in the short term.

Er...... nothing....
Cost of living- significant rises in everything
Supply of goods impacted
Boarder control- long winded

I also think in the longer term brexit will make Ireland less dependent on GB (mostly talking about economics here). That’s also a good thing.

I then gave a list of fruit grown from September onwards

Yes but that list is wrong.... even in mid sept my apple trees are done, pears in a week or two, plums 6 weeks ago, blackberries just about hanging on... by October, anything not under glass will be gone, we are still in Autumn.

Try some humility and admit you are wrong.

How a bouts you come up with a few tangible benefits? i'm all ears!!!

Newgirls

People in my family think Brexit means - fewer houses being built on green belt because of immigration. More school places due to less immigration. Easier to get a gp appt, I don’t want to leave EU but these are some reasons people want this. It’s racism basically.”

Fewer houses will be built full stop. The first sector to be hit on the stock market when BoZo won and touted no Deal was house builders. New builds will dry up.

Most European people with children in school will have applied for settled status so number of places is unlikely to vary very much. If economy tips in to recession, as is likely, the budget per head per child will shrink.

2 of the doctors at our group practice of 7 are European, 1 is Asian. If the (white) European doctors leave, they may well be replaced by Asian or African doctors, I understand the Govt’s policy is to encourage the “brightest and best” from those regions. I shall be extremely grateful and welcome them, as I would any medic who chooses to knock themselves out in our stretched (which will get worse post-Brexit) NHS.
Your racist relatives won’t be too chuffed though, all those extra brown faces. Which I think is bloody hilarious. Ignorant twats.

It's not racism to worry about the impact of sudden migration on services. Real lives were directly affected back in 2006 /2007.

Yes it was Blairs fault however it highlights many problems with the eu, and how our government operates within it.

It shows disparity of wealth between nations. It highlights that being entangled in the eu can cause issues for our leaders in that they are exposed to a broader idea /benefit which could be put before the need to protect its own people.

Did Blair put the UK first when he lifted working restrictions? Or did he put the eu ideology first?

Had we not been in the eu, it wouldn't have happened.

Conormagregor - Give over. Were you a bully at school by any chance? We're not in the playground now, you can't dictate who can comment on threads. If you don't like my comments block my posts.

Do you know something about my username that I don't! Why does it make you feel nauseous?

Neveragain21Sorry, how exactly does a domestic decision over unlimited immigration highlight many problems with the EU. The other EU countries limited theirs, we unilaterally chose not to. Your argument makes no sense whatsoever.

Straight bananas and pre packed kippers. BS.

Well it highlights the disproportionate benefits of fom.

We have loose Conservative estimates of over 3 million Eastern Europeans in the UK, but only several thousand UK citizens went to Poland/other Eastern European countries. How does that benefit the UK?. How can we trust our politicians to put UK citizens first when we are in the eu. They, ie Blair has already failed us once, why would we trust them again?

Did Blair put the UK first when he lifted working restrictions? Or did he put the eu ideology first?

When my mum had her stroke, she was cared for by immigrant medical staff, when i broke my hip, it was again eu migrant staff who cared for me.... there are not the numbers to look after our aging population or staff our industries.

Or we end up like Japan, your choice?

The Tories could have legislated to align their EU immigration policy with that of other member states. They didn't.
That's not a problem caused by FOM per se.

If you can't trust your domestic politicians, maybe being part of a wider union is reassuring.

We have always had NHS staff from overseas, including the eu. We didn't need fom at all to staff the hospitals.
Unfortunately many people did suffer in 2007 and hospitals did go under and provide unacceptable sub standard care due to the massive influx.

I don't trust our government, why on earth would I trust more government?

I think it will be pretty much the same apart from cost of living rising . May shift abroad .

Neveragain21

Eastern European immigrants have benefitted this country beyond measure, in numerous sectors. Do you eat fruit? They probably picked it. Vegetables? The same. Have you seen a GP recently, been treated in hospital? Very likely an high percentage of the staff were from Eastern Europe. Seen all of those nice, new houses going up everywhere? Worked on, predominantly, by highly skilled tradespeople from Eastern Europe. Stayed in an hotel recently? Your room will have been nicely serviced by an hard working, Eastern European room assistant. Eaten out? That smiling, hard working waiter/ress was likely European. Do you have kids at uni? They pay up to £9,000 in fees only because the European students pay up to 4 times as much. They leave, your kids will pay more. Shall I go on?

Well we should be employing British people, I hear you cry! These are all sectors where employers cannot fill vacancies locally, however hard they try. They are desperately worried about how they will continue in business if they are unable to secure European staff. There is talk of bringing in more staff from Asia/Africa/Philippines on a seasonal basis. Farming today was reporting on a scheme in, I think, Lincolnshire last week where it’s being trialled already. I hope this works out because we’re stuffed without overseas workers and I welcome them all with open arms.
Don’t imagine too many Brexiteers will be overly happy with that alternative though. Good. Ha bloody ha.

hospitals did go under and provide unacceptable sub standard care due to the massive influx

Certain localised areas of the country, yes i agree but its incorrect to say the NHS was somehow doing brilliantly pre 2004, it wasn't at all.

There were plenty of healthcare scandals in the 70s 80s, 90s and early 00's