How will your life be better after Brexit?

[BertrandRussell]

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I also forage and I also preserve. And I eat rabbit whenever I can (in Italy is recommended as the most suitable meat to introduce to kids after 6 months! Apparently lean, good proteins, easily digestible. Of course there’s nothing more pathetic than a skinned rabbit in your kitchen sink, particularly if you’re a new parent, but I’m diverging....)
I still very much like to do so out of personal choice and not necessity!!!!!!

(Blackberries and maggots. Leave them in the fridge for a day, in a closed container. The white worms will come up and wriggle out. You can then wash them out. I like my blackberry jam to be “sieved” in a food mill, so I suppose the worst that can happen is that I have some protein purée cooked with the food pulp)

How about we stop this freaking brexit and explain in primary schools the principle of seasons (starting with “summer is NOT the same thing as British summer hour, but a season defined by the equinox” amazing debate at lunchtime with colleagues about this...) and seasonal produce? An RHS short course instead of a ration card, come one, it’s a good idea!!!

As Bertrand already succinctly pointed out, after all these pages, hardly a positive to be seen. It makes me furious!

The Elementsong - You must be picking the wrong ones then.

Hopefully the gvmt will provide clear guidelines on which of the millions of tons of blackberries available are "the right ones" so that people scrabbling through the vast stretches of hedgerow left in the UK can maximise their crop before skipping home to carefully wash, dry and freeze the berries in their capacious freezers.

Not much opportunity to forage for fruit when you live in central London. Our food comes delivered by Tesco’s or Cook and I’d still like my full range of fruit and vegetables 12 months of the year.

I need a history teacher to help me with this
An history boffin, please!

A parallelism with history that doesn’t involve nazism and ww2...
Henry the 8th! The only bits of history that every child in Britain surely knows
He wanted to divorce his wife but the pope said no
He really didn’t have any personal interest in becoming the head of Church of England, he really just wanted to screw Ann Boleyn and get an heir. I figure he was as religious as BJ, really ;-)
But he went on and on about the tyranny of the Church of Rome
And he told everybody lies about it, and they all knew it was lies but went on with it because they thought they’d profit
Plus it was a bump of self esteem (screw the pope! We’ve got our sovereignty back!)
So on they went and the monasteries they plundered
And they killed each other for a good few years
And history knows it was never about sovereignty and the Church of England
And the treasures from the monasteries are all dispersed in noble palaces

It makes for a lot of tv series. I doubt people at the time really liked it much

Auld Alliance - Nothing wrong with picking wild blackberries and freezing them.

( @Parker231me and you, meeting at dawn at Hampstead Heath. I know where the blackberries are. And in spring the wild garlic. Unfortunately it’s where lots of dogs piss, but hey. If one is starving...)

It won’t. Everything will be more expensive. The economy will be weakened. All public services will be under even more strain ... and it will be lot harder to move to get away from all of this and from the emboldened racists.

Mistigri who said that no fruit is grown in this country for 6 months of the year.

And that remains true. There is pretty much no fruit picked in the U.K. between November and April. Some fruit stores well, but much of what the U.K. produces (soft summer fruits like strawberries and raspberries) can only be frozen, canned or consumed rapidly.

Whoa, hold your horses! Hang on a minute!

You have, in amongst all this talk of fruit, missed the absolute biggest positive thing.

You can sell them on by the pound.

Result!!!

Mamamia
"wrong"' was your term, not mine.
No, there is nothing wrong with picking wild fruit. I do it all the time, when it's in season. To suggest that it is a valid method of feeding a family in the UK in the 21st century, however, is, well, plain wrong. On many levels.
But I think these brambles - as I'd call them - have the same scent of red herring as the food banks.

Not seeing any upsides. My business will go under - we haven't got the margins to be resilient once you factor customs costs in on materials and finished product. I appreciate that we don't yet know what those charges will be, but that's not the point. We don't have a contingency fund to tide us over until that joyous day when we all know what this is going to cost.

It's the unknown that gets you. People already are holding off buying. If I can't sell into the EU as competitively, someone else can. My UK customers are holding tight for a recession. The US is a market for me but they've just announced postage costs are going to go up horribly after they withdraw from yet another agreement that kept things competitive. (That's not Brexit-related, I appreciate.) Looking forward three months, even if we don't come out on 31 Oct things are still so uncertain that I can't plan anything. I know so many people in exactly the same boat, we are micro-businesses and we have been supporting families and putting food on the table and paying our taxes and for us, it's all just fucked.

(The labour market is going to be flooded in the next few years with people like me. That's going to go well, isn't it?)

OK here's a serious one. Might a major economic slowdown be good for the environment? Obviously not if we're then shipping stuff in from the US / China rather than the EU but overall might we be consuming less pointless planet-raping shite? clutching at straws

Auld Alliance - I never said anything about it being a valid way to feed a family, I was just saying what British fruit was available from September onwards. It was part of my list and I said it was free if you picked your own.

I try to eat local fruit and veg that's in season because the further its travelled the less nutrition it has.

Ok. So what does all this fruit chit chat have to do with brexit then? Is it more diversion away from proper arguments?

I cannot think of a single way in which my life will be better after Brexit. I can, however, think of several ways in which it is likely to be worse. Brexit is economic suicide for this country, but the morons voted for it, so we have to go ahead, like lemmings leaping off a cliff.

Hersymphony - I think it started off with someone saying that people will starve, I responded with how much food we waste, then someone else said that we don't grow any fruit in this country, I then gave a list of fruit grown from September onwards, blackberries was included in that list and it all escalated from there!

I am not so sure there have not been positives listed, and I note that Clavinova's posts have been largely glossed over.

I live in an area that was badly hit by too much immigration too fast, so I hope that the possibility of such sudden massive immigration, will never happen again. Living in among it on the ground was horrendous. I have no issue with people coming here - i don't blame them at all, its not their responsibility to choose where to move to. However it is our governments responsibility to make sure their citizens lives wont be impacted.

Aside from that I will feel so much better when the usual frustrating news seeps out of the EU and I can think, "Phew that doesn't apply to us anymore", I also believe we will be better off without being tied to the EU.

Actually I can think of one way in which my life will improve - the news will no longer be saturated with will it, won't it Brexit speculation - since Brexit will have happened.

Neveragain21 can you elaborate why life will be better not being tied to the EU?

Time and time again leavers state this but we never get a reasoned answer as to why.

AuldAlliance

“Hopefully the gvmt will provide clear guidelines on which of the millions of tons of blackberries available are "the right ones" so that people scrabbling through the vast stretches of hedgerow left in the UK can maximise their crop before skipping home to carefully wash, dry and freeze the berries in their capacious freezers.“

😂

After extracting the maggots for pickling, of course.

You lost me after you chose the title of your post which was the opposite of mine, but your following post was just '?'
Have some balls, and actually say something credible.

You fell at the first post. You have no argument.

zafferana

Actually I can think of one way in which my life will improve - the news will no longer be saturated with will it, won't it Brexit speculation - since Brexit will have happened.“

Sorry to disappoint you but the news will be dominated by post leaving date negotiations for at least 5 years as the transition period gives way to talks on individual trade deals. Even longer if we leave with no deal and no transition period. We’re stuck with all of this for the foreseeable .
Unless “we” come to our senses and vote to remain in an informed referendum.

I live in an area that was badly hit by too much immigration too fast - The sudden increase in immigration from East Europe to the UK was allowed/encouraged by the UK government, not forced upon it by the EU. Virtually every other EU country chose to introduce restrictions. We didn’t.

What daisypond says, it was our Govts policy, not the EU’s. Blair’s if memory serves?