Please tell me specifically how Brexit will affect you

[ConorMcGregorsChin]

Exactly that.

To the average Joe on the street, they may not have thought it may affect their job.
Even for those who trade daily with the EU
Remainers seem to be constantly poo pooed.
Its been said on these threads before that Leavers would rather leave with No Deal and still brazenly say that this is what they wanted all along, rather than admit that belonging to the EU never really crossed their mind on a daily basis. Or that they were lied to.

The UK has been divided since the Referendum in 2016. Personally, I've been gutted. I had a fellow parent the day after tell me he was 'Buzzing' at the result. I'm sorry to say I think his reasons were misguided.

My own personal experience may be biased, but I give talks to schools. And I have nothing to gain from this.
Most people agree that bees need to be saved. The EU have played a crucial role in banning neoincotinoid pesticides from being used. The UK will overturn this rule and let farmers use whatever they like. This is a massive deal. This will kill bees. And it will happen overnight. Not to mention other things like the Domestic abusive bill being abandoned.

I'm keen to know why anyone would post union Jack flags and just claim that they want their country back. Aside from racial elements. I really want to know what people seriously think we can gain from this total shit storm.

I think only a minority of the "antagonistic nonchalance" bunch on MN genuinely think that there will be no impacts and that those impacts are not predictable to a certain extent.

For most it is a purely political position - they know perfectly well that there will be impacts, but they want to shut down discussion of this because of their ideological buy-in to Brexit.

This is why I think that it's important - as the OP says - for people to tell personal, human stories, which are much harder to dismiss.

I am an NHS doctor. I agree with all the PPs who have concerns about expected medication shortages.

However I would go one further and state that the NHS is already on its knees and every winter we seem to have media reports saying it has been the worst winter ever for the NHS. I am scared of the system letting me down and of not having the drugs I need to treat sick people that come through the door. I am worried about excess deaths in my patients.

On a population level I am also worried of what that will do to the underlying bed crisis. We already know that one bad flu season has a knock on impact for everyone else as it pulls staff/beds/resources. Imagine a cohort of patients that are much sicker than they need to be due to lack of available medications. Imagine all the extra admissions. Then imagine a “normal” NHS winter where people are being treated in corridors, on top of that. Where will we treat all these extra people? In the car park?

Then of course we have to imagine the impact on staffing. For years we have already been told to make “efficiency savings” and do more with fewer resources. We are already barely safely staffed. If we lose even a tiny proportion of our EU staff we will be screwed. I think this will lead to more stress and burnout in our remaining staff and more sick leave and resignations.

I believe this winter will lead to thousands (tens of thousands?) of unnecessary deaths, not all directly related to medication shortages but for the reasons I have listed above. I for one am terrified.

My DH is French. We only moved here 3 years ago I know great timing after living in France for 25years. He has applied for settled status but is not guaranteed to get it.
In the meantime, I am waiting to hear if my application for French citizenship has been accepted in case we ever want to move back to France.

It’s unlikely I’ll still have a job after Brexit. I am a cross border worker, my medical cover is up in the air now, my medications are on the list...
I am gathering my documents to apply for French citizenship in 18 months, but without a job (my niche area of academia is hard for job hunting)I’m likely to get turned down.

Just thinking that also the number of contracts my husband can apply for is now limited - in some cases where it's taken him a while to find a new one he's applied for roles that require a lot of time working in the EU. But that's not going to be an option now.

I gather it has a particularly serious impact on freelance musicians as well - a lot of them, especially in the classical world, rely on being able to hop on a plane to get to a job. Won't be able to do that now, so that will have a huge impact on the culture in this country as even fewer people will be able to afford to make a living as musicians.

Basically, Brexit is built on an utterly outdated mode of thinking about Britain, the world and world economics. It is about cooperation now, not 'being the best' or 'being the strongest' (neither of which the UK is anyway) - you cooperate and make the movement that makes the modern economy work straightforward, or you fall behind.

It's affected me in that I've applied for and got citizenship of the EU country I live in - thankfully a country which processes applications more sympathetically and efficiently than the UK (it took 5 months start to finish).

We've put of travel plans we had to visit the UK at the end of October (arranged when Brexit was meant to have been March and the dust should have had time to settle by October) due to not wanting to get stuck there! The kids are entitled to UK duel citizenship but travel on passports from the country we live in - wouldn't want to be stuck in the UK.

Have elderly parents in the UK, both medication dependent - have asked them whether they are stocking up on medication but they're very head in the sand. Luckily they're well enough off to be secure in most situations (price rises, having to go private etc,) but that won't help if medication isn't available.

Much milder impact than many people, but makes the distance between the UK and here greater effectively, and makes travel unappealing/ higher risk due to danger of getting stuck in the UK. Makes planning visits to family difficult atm.

Seventytwo - that is a very sobering post. I do hope the no-deal enthusiasts are paying attention.

I am pleased that Wiltshire's French friend is not worried - I am a EU citizen and I am worried sick about my future in the UK.

If I did not have a British husband and English children (I use 'English' purposefully as they are born and have only lived in England) I would probably have already left.

Brexit has already caused me quite a bit of bureaucratic upheaval (the process to apply for settled status was nowhere as easy as the government spin says); Brexit has changed my status from 'equal' to 'legal immigrant'. I am no longer a fellow EU citizen. I am 'other'.

Brexit, not only will impact on my ability to get work in this country; it also has given ammunition to some people to feel they have the right to question if I should be in the UK at all - notwithstanding the fact that I have worked all my professional life for UK organisations that carry the name 'national', and I have, personally, greatly contributed to catalogue, preserve and research the British national heritage.

This also begs the question -for people who support Brexit, what benefit will they, personally get?

Is there anything they couldn't do before Brexit they'll be able to do without the EU?

Will it save them money?

Will it make their lives easier?

Presumably they will answer that they/their family will be able to get jobs more easily without 'competition from foreigners', or that the NHS will be less 'overloaded with immigrants' - The Daily Mail and its ilk have a lot to answer for.

OP: Most people agree that bees need to be saved.The EU have played a crucial role in banning neoincotinoid pesticides from being used.The UK will overturn this rule and let farmers use whatever they like.

Seems unlikely the UK will overturn this rule? It was Michael Gove who backed the EU ban in 2017;

"UK will back total ban on bee-harming pesticides, Michael Gove reveals."

"Research leads environment secretary to overturn government’s previous opposition, making total EU ban much more likely."

www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/09/uk-will-back-total-ban-on-bee-harming-pesticides-michael-gove-reveals

Seems unlikely the UK will overturn this rule? It was Michael Gove who backed the EU ban in 2017;

If a Trade Deal with the US depends on it, why ever not? Isn't that more important in the BeLeaver's eyes? So what if it destroys the country in the process?

If a Trade Deal with the US depends on it, why ever not? Isn't that more important in the BeLeaver's eyes? So what if it destroys the country in the process?

Not at all -

May 2019
"The US just banned 12 pesticides that are like nicotine for bees"

www.businessinsider.com/epa-banned-pesticides-killing-bees-2019-5?r=US&IR=T

Oh for gods sake. Perhaps we could be spared the C&P on a post asking for people's direct experiences

This sort of trolling - and I think the word trolling is correct here, because it's designed to close down or divert threads - is so inappropriate here.

I work for a large corporate and customers have stopped spending significantly particularly in Government and Finance sectors. We are probably going to have significant redundancies soon.

Oh for gods sake. Perhaps we could be spared the C&P on a post asking for people's direct experiences

The life experience I am commenting on is the OP's life experience - surely I'm allowed to comment on that one???

As in the opening post.

"Seems unlikely the UK will overturn this rule?"

Is this a rude comment to make? Objectionable?

A few days ago I was accused of being a Russian, then a name changer from the Far East - now I'm a troll...

As a Briton living elsewhere in the EU, I will be 100% disenfranchised. Even if there is a deal and although I am a working taxpayer. If anyone can explain how this is not an infringement of Article 21 of the UN Universal Declaration, I'm all ears.

It's already affected everyone! The pound never recovered itself after the referendum, billions of pounds that could have been spent making this country a better place and paying down debt has been spunked on this stupidity, the cost of everything is increasing. It's had an effect on everyone already.

Just to confirm (and I think recent posts also point to this) the situation with regard to the future use of currently banned pesticides is uncertain.

Without giving too many personal details away, there is a very real fear in the beekeeping world (I'm talking university research level and involvement with government) that the UK could allow pesticides to be used again once we exit the EU. There are various reasons for this, some political (surprise surprise) and the consensus seems to be changing all the time. No doubt if you ask your local MP, they will say it's a No brainer. We keep the ban. But it's been shaky on and off for a few years now.

And my family have been involved directly in the actual research which was used to persuade the government to ban. They weren't awfully interested at times. But in this instance, the EU were.

So I guess, who knows?
Like a lot of people who have posted. It's what's looking likely to them. In their situations. Having spoken to experts in the field. Wether that be immigration, employment, medicines etc. We seem to have a lot of agreement on this thread that there are impacts being felt already. With more to come. Some more obvious than others. Who knows how big the evebtual impacts will be. And for how long. And that's what makes things scary.

Thank you so much to all those who have contributed to this thread. It has been very sobering. But it confirms my reason for asking about individual experiences. As I expected, this affects many many people in so many ways. Some of which we don't even know the full impact of yet.

Where is this list of medications that everybody's talking about. Is it a list released by the Government, or the NHS? Because I haven't seen it, can someone give a link please.

The list is included in this article.

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It makes for very scary reading. The type 2 diabetes drug Metformin has shot up in price by 261% as the Brexit deadline and associated uncertainty draws closer.

My 8 year old daughter is type 1 diabetic so I’m finding no deal Brexit terrifying. Any delays to accessing medication could be fatal for so many people. The yellowhammer report makes bleak reading...they’ve stockpiled for 6 weeks but delays could last for 6 months, crazy.
We’ve personally stockpiled insulin for 9 months. I don’t trust the government with my child’s life.

I'm also affected in exactly the same way as BirdandSparrow as the country I live in does not allow dual nationality (except for children who obtain it by birth).

Furious at all the Brexiteers wittering on about the "voice of the British people", blah blah blah. If they're so bothered about the democratic rights of the British people why aren't they frothing about the rights of fellow Britons in the EU being taken away and the fact that we didn't have a vote in the Ref?