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Please tell me specifically how Brexit will affect you

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ConorMcGregorsChin · 15/09/2019 20:00

Exactly that.

To the average Joe on the street, they may not have thought it may affect their job.
Even for those who trade daily with the EU
Remainers seem to be constantly poo pooed.
Its been said on these threads before that Leavers would rather leave with No Deal and still brazenly say that this is what they wanted all along, rather than admit that belonging to the EU never really crossed their mind on a daily basis. Or that they were lied to.

The UK has been divided since the Referendum in 2016. Personally, I've been gutted. I had a fellow parent the day after tell me he was 'Buzzing' at the result. I'm sorry to say I think his reasons were misguided.

My own personal experience may be biased, but I give talks to schools. And I have nothing to gain from this.
Most people agree that bees need to be saved. The EU have played a crucial role in banning neoincotinoid pesticides from being used. The UK will overturn this rule and let farmers use whatever they like. This is a massive deal. This will kill bees. And it will happen overnight. Not to mention other things like the Domestic abusive bill being abandoned.

I'm keen to know why anyone would post union Jack flags and just claim that they want their country back. Aside from racial elements. I really want to know what people seriously think we can gain from this total shit storm.

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Wiltshirelass2019 · 15/09/2019 21:33

BirdandSparrow my close friend is French, she hasn’t had to do anything, she’s quite calm ability the whole thing.

ConorMcGregorsChin · 15/09/2019 21:36

Wiltshirelass thank you for acknowledging that. However, you've been consistently antagonizing to quite a few posters on my thread. Please just step away if you don't agree or understand.

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Mistigri · 15/09/2019 21:37

No one knows

This is of course utter bollocks (and I am prepared to bet that the person who types it is perfectly aware of some of the consequences, but does not consider them to be of any real importance).

Some of the consequences of Brexit are unknown. Some are known. Some can be predicted with a reasonable degree of certainty, some can be predicted with near absolute certainty, others with involve considerable uncertainties.

The idea that none of this is knowable is the opinion of someone whose political ideology requires them to know nothing.

twofingerstoEverything · 15/09/2019 21:37

Both dentists at my NHS dental practice have left. One was Danish and one was Dutch. The receptionist said they no longer wanted to stay in the UK (who can blame them?) and they are currently trying to recruit. I have tried to find another NHS dentist locally, but none are taking new patients, although they will accept you if you sign on as a private patient. This is a first world problem compared with some of the above, but I imagine this type of thing will happen more and more. So, for the moment, that's how I've been affected, but we haven't left yet. Some of the things in Yellowhammer worry me - fuel shortages/price increases would make it impossible/more difficult for me to get to work and as a member of the JAM class, I can't see how I can make any further economies if we face food price increases. There are a lot of JAMs in the UK - in paid work, but living paypay to payday on an incredibly tight budget with no money left at the end of each month, no savings, no contingency funds etc. I really fear for people who rely on benefits or food banks.

lauryloo · 15/09/2019 21:38

There has been an increase in dissident activity in NI. I'm terrified of going back to the way it was here before.

Peregrina · 15/09/2019 21:38

Wiltshirelass

Unfortunately you sound like Michael Gove when he was being questioned by Hilary Benn in a Brexit prep committee. He was asked about the plans he had and came up with the smart arse reply that only the Almighty knew the future. To which Benn replied tartly that the Almighty hadn't been called as a witness to the committee.

Having had some unexpected deaths in my family, I know that the future can't be planned with certainty. But like every one else I still buy food in and pay my bills and make plans in the assumption that my life is going to go on. I don't just hope that my fridge restocks itself or that my car is mysteriously refuelled.

Wiltshirelass2019 · 15/09/2019 21:39

Sorry I don’t mean to be, I think it’s important to look at different points of view that’s all. If this is a ‘Brexit is oblivion’ thread then I do apologise and I’ll leave! Xx

Peregrina · 15/09/2019 21:40

My Danish dentist has left too. He always planned to retire back to Denmark but has gone five years earlier than he would have done. His wife was a Doctor, his daughter did medical research. All lost to the UK. Well done Leavers.

Outsomnia · 15/09/2019 21:42

Personally I thought the status quo was fine. No one questioned it really until Cameron thought he would stop anti EU with a referendum UKIP, ok.

And the dam has been opened now. But I still think better to be inside the tent of the EU now.

It was all so unnecessary really and has opened up a can of worms that is being used by certain people for their own ends, not for ours.

BlackeyedGruesome · 15/09/2019 21:43

my mum is on several medicines on the shortages list. mum will get really dangerously ill.
I am on one. I will get a sore tummy. not so bad really
ex is on another. he could lose his job and driving licence

I am on carers allowance. increase cost on £66.15 per week will not leave much wriggle room. supplementing with savings, which will not last forever. and maintenance which will not be available if ex loses his job due to medication shortages.

I drive my disabled child to school so reliant on petrol.

ConorMcGregorsChin · 15/09/2019 21:43

Birdandsparrow I'm in a similar situation.
I don't think anyone gives a shit unless it affects them
(Unless of course you are a human being with the best interests of your nearest and dearest at heart)

Heaven help you if you are the Polish neighbour who you might actually like. Or that heart doctor who saved your Mums life.
Now where was he from again? Was he some kind of immigrant? Or a highly intelligent medical student?

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ALoadOfTwaddle · 15/09/2019 21:44

Some of the consequences of Brexit are unknown. Some are known. Some can be predicted with a reasonable degree of certainty, some can be predicted with near absolute certainty, others with involve considerable uncertainties

What Brexit are you knowing about then? Hard? Soft? Theresa May's Deal? No deal? Whatever BoJo is working on? Heck, maybe the lib Dems will get into power (if people forget what happened the last time their election promises were believed) and call the whole thing off.

So, what is certain? I stand by what I said, no one actually knows.

Wiltshirelass2019 · 15/09/2019 21:45

Outsomnia completely agree, I think the referendum should never have happened. I don’t blame people how they voted either way though. It’s the politicians that should be blamed for this mess not citizens exercising their democratic votes.

Lepetitpiggy · 15/09/2019 21:45

I hate that my job will probably be fairly safe. I work with the homeless and there will more than likely be a lot more of them...

RoseyOldCrow · 15/09/2019 21:46

Three members of my immediate family, plus me, require daily meds to manage our (different) chronic illnesses.
Multiple close friends of varied nationalities, very concerned about rights to remain.
DH with UK based role requiring frequent & varied EU travel at short notice. Also complex global data transfer activities facing unknowable possible outcomes plus legal minefields eg invoicing.

Add to that the risks to the integrity of supply chains of fuel, water, food etc and it is a very worrying outlook indeed.

Mistigri · 15/09/2019 21:47

What Brexit are you knowing about then?

The only Brexits that are on offer (May's Brexit, or no deal).

We have reasonable visibility, for example, of what both these mean for Britons in the EU, or for the business models of companies which rely on single market freedoms.

FionaBrusque · 15/09/2019 21:49

My DH will likely become unemployed as he works in an industry very reliant on being part of the EU.

I am generally worried about medication supplies and the NHS as a whole. I'm very concerned about people who are reliant on food banks and such like now, as I expect everything to cost more and I think many more people and families will be in poverty.

Outsomnia · 15/09/2019 21:50

@Wiltshirelass2019

We are powerless now. That is so awful really, the Brexit train is trundling onwards now with no reality in its engine.

Sorry if that offends anyone, but really with one month to go after 40 years of membership, honestly I despair.

Mark my words, if Hard Brexit happens it won't be for the benefit of the vast majority of us anyway.

BirdandSparrow · 15/09/2019 21:56

BirdandSparrow my close friend is French, she hasn’t had to do anything, she’s quite calm ability the whole thing.

I don't really care about what your French friend has had to do or not. I am telling you that IN SPAIN I will become a 3rd country national and have to apply for new paperwork in order to keep living here. To retain the rights I have now my best chance is to become Spanish, I've applied but there is a massive backlong.

These are minor concerns compared to not having medication, but PLEASE stop saying "nobody knows" or "my friend of a different nationality and in completely different circumstance isn't worried", it just makes you sound like an unempathetic/hugely unintelligent twat.

Songsofexperience · 15/09/2019 21:57

The no deal mob, if it comes to pass, will have blood on their hands.
The thought of people like rodent upthread whose cancer treatment may be disrupted makes me feel sick to my stomach.
Those hard right harridans crowing about their fucking patriotism and perverted idea of what democracy means have no heart, no empathy and frankly should be ashamed.
One of them accused remainers sarcastically on another thread of chasing them with a bell chanting 'shame'.
Fucking right we do!
Probably not loudly enough either!

BirdandSparrow · 15/09/2019 21:59

And to become Spanish I have to renounce my nationality, there's no dual nationality. It's not something you do on a whim. Once I get Spanish nationality (probably not for another year or so) I will then have to change all my documentation as I'll have a new name (have to have 2 surnames in Spain) and a new ID number, which is used for EVERYTHING. Even if I don't take nationality, I don't know if the third country national card will be a different number, it might be. So I might have to change everything anyway.

Helmetbymidnight · 15/09/2019 22:02

nobody knows exactly what happens when you drop out of 100s of agreements in trade medicine/food/insurance/transport/employment overnight- but we can make a pretty accurate assessment- and im sorry but anyone still pretending that 'it might be good' is talking out of their ignorant arse.

dh relies on several meds. a friend is in charge of letting 100s of staff go on nov 1st if theres no deal...other friends are braced for next onslaught of racism. i expect the environment to be ignored for years.

SpangledBoots · 15/09/2019 22:07

Another round of Scottish independence torture.

Snowjive2 · 15/09/2019 22:09

Like NeverTwerk my son’s life depends on epipens if he ingests one of a long list of foods. They are already very difficult to get, Brexit will exacerbate that.

To set against that? Nothing. There are no benefits to my family from Brexit.

Sarahlou63 · 15/09/2019 22:17

My DP has worked as a contractor throughout Europe for the last 10 years. He now has to either limit his work to the UK (and therefore struggle to visit me in Portugal every week) or apply for residency here and not be able to work in France/Spain/Netherlands/wherever. It's not a patch on those who's health is directly affected but it's stupid and unnecessary.