Westminstenders: "I don't give a flying flamingo"

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Amid scenes parliament was shut down.

In an unprecedented comment the Speaker, stated it was not an ordinary prorogation and it was blatantly an attempt to stop the executive being held to account.

And now it seems a Scottish Court agree with him:
"Lord Brodie cont: "the principal reasons for the prorogation were to prevent or impede parliament holding the executive to account and legislating with regard to Brexit, and to allow the executive to pursue a policy of a no deal Brexit without further parliamentary interference"

Thus parliament must reopen. Unless the decision is overturned in a higher court.

This is constitutionally a big deal. The Queen is highly unlikely to attend a reopening, especially in this manner, due to how political it now is.

General Election campaigning has already began with parties trying to take full advantage of the fact that there are currently no rules over spending.

Dominic Cummings actively and openly campaigning for the Conservatives whilst paid as a civil servant by the tax payer is a huge breech of the Civil service code but MPs are struggling to pin the government down on this as its being obstructive.

Cummings is keen to use data to target and personalise people based on their usage of the .gov portal for Brexit. This is OK as its in the national interest apparently. Its also incredibly sinister and concerning about how this could be used against the population.

Anyway if you thought parliament closing would result in a lull in events you were very much mistaken!!

What next?

The advance Harper Collins paid was thought to be in the region of £800,000.

It sounds as though Harper Collins has more money than sense. The article did say he would give this to charity, but it's pocket money to him.

I might borrow it from the Library - I wonder how many copies they will buy and how often they will be borrowed.

I might borrow it from the Library - I wonder how many copies they will buy and how often they will be borrowed.

Make sure they go back in the "True Crime" section (courtesy Mark Thomas )

Thank you DeRigeur.

This made me laugh (got to laugh eh)

I don't think people understand that the WA is just a further kicking of the can down the road

I think most people just aren't politically aware. Most people who I work with have no understanding of the Irish Backstop, the current WA, the role of Parliament, proroguing, recess etc

It's sometimes difficult to remember that most people just aren't following every single thing about Brexit.

Your post makes no sense kingsassassin

No deal can still happen if Johnson and Cummings break the law. If that happens, I'm very sorry for your loss and I do care about the health of all those who rely on medication to stay alive. It's astonishing I have to print that.

Even with a WA, medicines will be in short supply and a lottery system will be in place.

It's incredibly serious. MPs know this, which is why they worked hard to prevent a no deal happening.

I do wish I could turn back the clock, for you and for others.

Revoke requires a chain of events to happen and has only a very small chance, maybe 5%

"I value lives and livelihoods. "

So do I, which is why I choose the WA over No Deal
These are the 2 realistic choices, imo

Your post makes no sense kingsassassin

My deepest apologies for this. I meant you post makes sense. So sorry.

For what it's worth I write a weekly email to my ERG MP. She's fed up to the back teeth with me. There is only so many ways to spout off electioneering material which quite frankly, is a load of bullshit.

Even with a WA, medicines will be in short supply and a lottery system will be in place.

Ok, genuinely confused here. I thought under the terms I’d the WA imports/exports would continue as now during the transition period. So why would they be in short supply - aside from the fact that there seem to be current supply issues for a number of drugs Brexit or no Brexit?

I believe that revoke and a referendum are two realistic choices.

I hope there isn't an election for a long time.

Wasn't that a realistic choice once?

Of the, not I’d 🙄

There is going to be a shortage during the WA process. Do you think this is going to happen overnight?

There are no magic wands.

No golden uplands

No unicorns.

"I don't think people understand that the WA is just a further kicking of the can down the road. "

mother I don't think that you understand that No Deal means accepting the main WA terms anyway,
but after months of the UK govt holding out until shortages and trade get too bad
(maybe until the death toll gets too politically embarassing)

Then negotiating a new trade deal - while the economy is falling over a cliff and the UK has to accept what is offered

With the WA, we'd negotiate it in transition, while still enjoying all EU trade & agency benefits - except voting

I don't think that you understand that WA worst case of a negotiating minimum EU FTA still keeps meds flowing,
all through transition and then the FTA will certainly include conditions to ensure that meds imports continue.

"Even with a WA, medicines will be in short supply and a lottery system will be in place."

Rubbish
Please stop posting lies

"There are no unicorns"

"Remain with at most 5% chance is the nearest thing to a unicron"

There is going to be a shortage during the WA process. Do you think this is going to happen overnight?

Er...yes. Yes I do. Why wouldn’t it?

It's already in place BCF. Open your eyes. I've worked in health care, I've seen the shortages already. Not only in staff not returning, but in drugs too. The UK can Revoke at any time. The UK can put forward another referendum at any time.

Revoke and referendum are viable options.

So depressed to realise that for some leavers out there no deal is the only brexit. Have they all gone berserk?
I'm afraid I've lost my cool just now on another thread. I can't engage with no dealers. That's just not possible for me (not going back to the brexit arms...).

Legally, the UK can Revoke any time, but politically it is very unlikely to happen

Revoke requires:

• An extension
  BJ would resign first, so this means the Rebel Alliance agreeing on an alternative PM and HHQ accepting this, all within at most 10 days

• Then a GE which Corbyn would have to win
  Despite the LDems standing against Labour MPs

• Then Remain have to overcome all the hard right psyops & propoganda - which hasn't been taxkled since the last ref - to win a PV

Mother The time has long passed when we could drop the red lines and renegotiate a new WA

All that would be available - IF we get an extension and IF Corbyn wins the next GE - is to renegotiate the PD

Those 2 IFs are really big ones

The 2 year extension Macron floated is for the UK to have a long talk with itself, to make up its fucking mind what it wants and what it will concede to get that
e.g. the red lines it will drop

and then to produce a Parliament with a majority to actually approve anything
Only then would negotiations become genuine

(at least, Macron as analysed in Germany)