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Westminstenders: "I don't give a flying flamingo"

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RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 11:18

Amid scenes parliament was shut down.

In an unprecedented comment the Speaker, stated it was not an ordinary prorogation and it was blatantly an attempt to stop the executive being held to account.

And now it seems a Scottish Court agree with him:
"Lord Brodie cont: "the principal reasons for the prorogation were to prevent or impede parliament holding the executive to account and legislating with regard to Brexit, and to allow the executive to pursue a policy of a no deal Brexit without further parliamentary interference"

Thus parliament must reopen. Unless the decision is overturned in a higher court.

This is constitutionally a big deal. The Queen is highly unlikely to attend a reopening, especially in this manner, due to how political it now is.

General Election campaigning has already began with parties trying to take full advantage of the fact that there are currently no rules over spending.

Dominic Cummings actively and openly campaigning for the Conservatives whilst paid as a civil servant by the tax payer is a huge breech of the Civil service code but MPs are struggling to pin the government down on this as its being obstructive.

Cummings is keen to use data to target and personalise people based on their usage of the .gov portal for Brexit. This is OK as its in the national interest apparently. Its also incredibly sinister and concerning about how this could be used against the population.

Anyway if you thought parliament closing would result in a lull in events you were very much mistaken!!

What next?

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TheMShip · 11/09/2019 20:00

I think the end of point 18 is extremely telling, regarding the Irish border:

Given the tariff and non-tariff barriers to trade, there will be significant pressure to agree new arrangements which supersede the day one model within days or weeks. (Emphasis mine)

That translates into "sign on the dotted line" of the WA.

Lex234 · 11/09/2019 20:01

My best guess is fuel, possibly prices given the preceding and subsequent points.

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 20:03

Alex Wickham@alexwickham
Yellowhammer docs

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Bearbehind · 11/09/2019 20:03

It’s scary that Boris can shut down parliament, get defeated repeatedly in votes and lie through his teeth and the polls still show the Tories are doing better than Labour.

It’s not necessarily a measure of support for BJ, it’s acknowledgment of the fact Corbyn is an ineffective twat.

Starmer and Watson are both promoting a firm Labour stance and Corbyn is still fannying around with comments about a GE which solves nothing as he wouldn’t win.

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 20:06

Alex Wickham@alexwickham
— 2.5 day queues for HGVs at Kent
— significant electricity price increases for consumers
— winter weather and flu could exacerbate impacts and stretch resources
— public and biz readiness for no-deal will remain at a low level
— small and medium businesses less well prepared
— possible severe extended delays for medicines if situation unmitigated
— certain types of fresh food supply will decrease
— law enforcement data sharing disrupted
— financial services disrupted
— low income groups disproportionately affected
— protests across UK
“Low income groups will be disproportionately affected by any price rises in food and fuel” is point 17 in the government’s no deal planning

What the hell is no 15? So bad it can't be public?

Westminstenders: "I don't give a flying flamingo"
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Bearbehind · 11/09/2019 20:06

Yellowhammer docs

Holy shit!

And i bet it still won’t make any difference to Leavers

BigChocFrenzy · 11/09/2019 20:07

That backbencher whingeing about the attention paid to E27 expats instead of Uk ones: Hmm

That's because the EU declared that all the 1 million+ UK expats will be allowed to stay and told the 27 member countries to make the process reasonably simple & cheap

whereas already some of the 3 million have been told they can't stay in the UK and / or are having to hunt back for years of documentation

So rightly, attention is focused on those in the greatest need of help

boatyardblues · 11/09/2019 20:07

Still trying to catch up - I thought today would be quieter, but it seems we are still riding the tiger.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 11/09/2019 20:08

oops. sorry.
Don't forget to set your .gov cookies to reject all

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 20:08

Pippa Crerar@pippacrerar
🔥Now Business Minister @kwasikwarteng throws fuel on the fire. "Many Leave voters up and down the country are beginning to question the impartiality of the judges. They’re saying 'why are they getting involved in politics?'" @afneil

David Allen Green @davidallengreen
In which @KwasiKwarteng encourages the subversion of the Rule of Law and attacks on the judiciary

An actual government minister

Unhappy times when a government minister cheers on such attacks on the judiciary

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dontcallmelen · 11/09/2019 20:08

I bet it won’t either, somehow it will be spun & it’s all rainbows n unicorns, never mind the sick the poor & the vulnerable they will be just collateral damage.

BigChocFrenzy · 11/09/2019 20:09

Thanks, kitten 💐

We'll have to wait for the leak in a few days, to see No. 15

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 20:11

Matt Chorley @mattchorley
I don’t know what everyone is worried about. According to Yellowhammer we should have water, and some food, the lights probably won’t go out, and there might be some medicines. #TakeBackControl

Oh, and there might be protests and public disorder, but at least we can keep warm by huddling around the burning cars.

Oh, and there might be protests and public disorder, but at least we can keep warm by huddling around the burning cars.

And fishermen might start fighting at sea.

And no15 is going to be so much fun they have kept it back as a surprise for the big day. Do you think it is a cake in the shape of a red bus?

And if you actually want to read what could be happening within six weeks in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in the actual year 2019 according to the government lead by the man who won the referendum, it’s here
t.co/pFvJEuCDj2

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bellinisurge · 11/09/2019 20:13

Those Yellowhammer docs are actually less of a worst case scenario than I feared.

TheMShip · 11/09/2019 20:14

I bet someone at the Guardian is typing really fast right now to get that scanned document transferred into a more transmissible format.

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 20:15

From the journalist who leaked the Yellowhammer docs in the Sunday Times

Rosamund Urwin @rosamundurwin
What's different about the new Yellowhammer document that the government has just published compared with the one I got hold of last month? The heading.

What did the version I had say? BASE SCENARIO

Now what does the new one say? HMG Reasonable Worst Case Planning Assumptions

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BercowsFlyingFlamingo · 11/09/2019 20:17

Why is Point 15 blacked out??

Bearbehind · 11/09/2019 20:19

Whatever point 15 is, they’ve confirmed it’s guaranteed to happen by redacting it

prettybird · 11/09/2019 20:19

But isn't the point that Yellowhammer isn't the worst case scenario? - it's just the medium case scenario Confused

So it could be a lot worse and in the absence of mini deals which aren't going to happen Wink it might will probably be worse Sad

Bearbehind · 11/09/2019 20:22

It’s also like the Brexit preparedness nonsense, ie, it doesn’t actually say much other than ‘might’ or ‘may’ ie, the extent of the problems hasn’t been documented in most instances

prettybird · 11/09/2019 20:22

Aah - I see from Red's post that the Government has spent today editing Yellowhammer to claim it is the "worst case" rather than the base case Hmm

Plus redacting the bits that they didn't have time to change Wink

flouncyfanny · 11/09/2019 20:26

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RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 20:26

Those Yellowhammer docs are actually less of a worst case scenario than I feared.

Rosamund Urwin said when she was leaked the document it was exactly the same but said 'base level' rather than worst case...

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woodpigeons · 11/09/2019 20:27

I think a few of us working together could have knocked out a better operation yellowhammer doc in a couple of hours.
The whole thing’s a joke and doesn’t say anything we didn’t know.

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