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Westminstenders: "I don't give a flying flamingo"

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RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 11:18

Amid scenes parliament was shut down.

In an unprecedented comment the Speaker, stated it was not an ordinary prorogation and it was blatantly an attempt to stop the executive being held to account.

And now it seems a Scottish Court agree with him:
"Lord Brodie cont: "the principal reasons for the prorogation were to prevent or impede parliament holding the executive to account and legislating with regard to Brexit, and to allow the executive to pursue a policy of a no deal Brexit without further parliamentary interference"

Thus parliament must reopen. Unless the decision is overturned in a higher court.

This is constitutionally a big deal. The Queen is highly unlikely to attend a reopening, especially in this manner, due to how political it now is.

General Election campaigning has already began with parties trying to take full advantage of the fact that there are currently no rules over spending.

Dominic Cummings actively and openly campaigning for the Conservatives whilst paid as a civil servant by the tax payer is a huge breech of the Civil service code but MPs are struggling to pin the government down on this as its being obstructive.

Cummings is keen to use data to target and personalise people based on their usage of the .gov portal for Brexit. This is OK as its in the national interest apparently. Its also incredibly sinister and concerning about how this could be used against the population.

Anyway if you thought parliament closing would result in a lull in events you were very much mistaken!!

What next?

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pumkinspicetime · 11/09/2019 18:53

If the current debacle encourages Glasgow's sectarianism to be treated seriously it will be one good thing to have come out of this mess.
Maybe I could finally pick a football team to support.

MockersthefeMANist · 11/09/2019 18:56

Are they likely to release the yellow hammer docs, do we think?

If they don't, the Welsh govt will, provided they haven't left them where they keep the impact assessments.

Motheroffourdragons · 11/09/2019 18:57

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Bearbehind · 11/09/2019 18:58

If they release it can MPs discuss it if they are back in parliament?

MockersthefeMANist · 11/09/2019 19:00

If parliament is back, so are the select ctees, who have the authority to 'send for persons and papers.'

ContinuityError · 11/09/2019 19:04

If parliament is back, so are the select ctees, who have the authority to 'send for persons and papers.'

Is Cummings still in contempt of Parliament for not turning up to a Committee hearing?

MockersthefeMANist · 11/09/2019 19:06

He is, and the men-in-tights could yet go out and grab him.

lonelyplanetmum · 11/09/2019 19:20

So if the opposition now return and the govt do not... what legislation can be passed?

Belindabelle · 11/09/2019 19:28

Andrew Neil grilling Farage at the moment on BBC2.

I forgot this was on.

lonelyplanetmum · 11/09/2019 19:42

I just watched the first ppmqs.

It is sinister.
If we read that Orban had suspended parliament, suppressed negative analysis of government policy and at that time started a new series of broadcasts directly to the nation we would suck our teeth and say smugly that could never happen here.

Basilpots · 11/09/2019 19:42

Government response to yellowhammer has just come through

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 19:51

Paul Brand @paulbranditv
BREAKING: Govt tells Dominic Grieve it won't publish prorogation communications because request is

"unprecedented, inappropriate and disproportionate...To name individuals without any regard to their rights or the consequences goes beyond any reasonable right of parliament"

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RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 19:53

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 32% (-3)
LAB: 23% (+2)
LDEM: 19% (-)
BREX: 14% (+2)
GRN: 7% (-)

via @YouGov, 09 - 10 Sep
Chgs. w/ 06 Sep

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Lex234 · 11/09/2019 19:54

Well that makes reassuring reading, doesn't it?! Sad

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 19:56

Damien Grammaticas @dngbbc
France’s Europe Minister Amelie de Montchalin today said UK is trying “to secure a managed no deal” asking France for “mini-deals” on citizens, security, defence, fishing. The answer is “non” France will not do side-deals with UK to help mitigate impact of a no deal Brexit. /1

Amelie de Montchalin, France’s Europe Minister: “we can see during bilateral meetings that the British... try to secure a ‘managed no deal’… the probability of a no deal is quite high… the British are conscious of this and so they are trying to secure things" but .. /2

Amelie de Montchalin adds mini-deals with UK are “totally incompatible with the spirit in which we are negotiating.. we always tell [the UK]… Michel Barnier and his team are ready to see with you what can be done at the EU level” ie go talk to Brussels. No side deals. /3

Also France’s Europe Minister @AdeMontchalin today: a new #Brexit delay just for more time “is not an option”. Only if there’s “a new government, an announcement of an election or something that makes us think the landscape is changing, then we’ll consider an extension". 4/Ends

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fedup21 · 11/09/2019 19:56

It’s scary that Boris can shut down parliament, get defeated repeatedly in votes and lie through his teeth and the polls still show the Tories are doing better than Labour.

What would he actually have to do to be less popular?!

NoWordForFluffy · 11/09/2019 19:56

The polls with the Tories a fair way ahead seriously contradict the ones with only a couple of percentage points in it. They can't both be right!

Belindabelle · 11/09/2019 19:56

I wonder what the redacted section was?

TheMShip · 11/09/2019 19:57

What did they black out?? Point 15 is completely redacted.

FoldyRoll · 11/09/2019 19:57

Yellowhammer docs are 5 pages of nothing to see here, move along! Clearly cobbled together in the past 2 days.

5 pages is a joke.

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2019 19:57

Sir Roger Gale @rogergale
I have written to the Prime Minister following the question that I asked in PMQs last week. As I want to be sure that British Expats rights and benefits will be secured by this Government post Brexit.

This is one unhappy Tory backbencher!

Westminstenders: "I don't give a flying flamingo"
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Basilpots · 11/09/2019 19:59

For those that don’t want to go on .GOV

Westminstenders: "I don't give a flying flamingo"
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OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 11/09/2019 19:59

The redacted part? My bet is on Humans as sources of meat given the random articles that started popping up about it Grin

FoldyRoll · 11/09/2019 20:00

Let's hope the Scottish Parliament or Welsh Assembly release the real thing.

Basilpots · 11/09/2019 20:00

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