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Westminstenders: The Rule of Law

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RedToothBrush · 08/09/2019 14:16

We enter week 2 of what might be considered 'the end game'.

The Conservative Party has made it clear that liberals are not welcome in their ranks. It has become the Brexit Party.

Farage is talking of a pact, though Javid has said no. What would Javid know though, he's only in the Cabinet.

Amber Rudd has resigned. She will run as an independent in an unnamed constituency at the next election. The assumption must therefore be she has been talking to a few people this week about this, though whether that means she is a 'One Nation Tory' independent candidate or simply an independent isn't clear.

Some think that her departure will deal Johnson yet another blow at the polls. Others think as the cabinet members with the worst satisfaction rating amongst tory party members this will be viewed positively by leavers and give Johnson a bounce in the polls.

It been reported that Cummings has overruled Johnson on at least key decisions this week which raises the question of who is in charge and running the show.

Cummings has promised to make us all melt in the coming weeks as he takes a sledge hammer to constitutional convention. He's advised no 10 staff to be 'cool like Fonzies'. A reference to pulp fiction and to happy days. As some have commented if you think about Cummings as some one who has watched too much Tarantino it does make him make a lot more sense.

There are suggestions that Johnson will break the rule of law in refusing to ask for an extension and the No10 have a trick up their sleeve over loopholes. The most obvious thing here being to offer the EU a deal they can't possibly refuse agree too to smear them and to then make it impossible for the EU to agree to an extension which noises out of France seem to suggest anyway.

Tomorrow is going to be interesting...

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ContinuityError · 09/09/2019 17:34

DGRossetti Think was the BBC Brussels correspondent (Adam Someone) who mentioned it this morning?

DadDadDad · 09/09/2019 17:36

A general election changes the composition of the Commons. If we only have a referendum, it's the same MPs and the same arguments. (Obviously, I accept that after an election, it might be different MPs but the same arguments. Confused ).

DGRossetti · 09/09/2019 17:37

Think was the BBC Brussels correspondent (Adam Someone) who mentioned it this morning?

Same source I read, but absent a definite cite, I'll have to park it in the "speculation" folder.

Either that or (not impossible I guess) no one has twigged it could be a massive game changer. A little like how the Popes resignation was missed by all the media, as it was in Latin Grin

Apileofballyhoo · 09/09/2019 17:38

A funny old world when you think Gideon has a point...

Or you're thinking 'Go Philip Hammond' or feeling sad that "Independent" is written under Dominic Grieve's name, or Oliver Letwin's or Ken Clarke's. I'm all for the Tories falling apart, but they've got rid of all the good ones (good for a Tory that is), and whatever about politics and different political views, this is not politics, this is fanaticism.

MockersthefeMANist · 09/09/2019 17:38

BJ getting a proper duffing up, a victim of Grieve-ous assault.

The antibodies in the body politic are massing against the infection.

Basilpots · 09/09/2019 17:40

Not keen on Johnson is he Dominic.Shock

Icantreachthepretzels · 09/09/2019 17:42

Three cheers for the (9th) Duke of Wellington! can we have a few more Tory defections please?

Belindabelle · 09/09/2019 17:44

I was hoping to see a few more resignations before the prorogation.

ContinuityError · 09/09/2019 17:46

Wiki reports that the Duke of Wellington resigned his Tory membership the day after the whip was withdrawn from the Rebel Alliance.

Hazardtired · 09/09/2019 17:48

I'm not watching debates - every time I don't watch a Tory crosses the floor.

placemats · 09/09/2019 17:50

This next GE is ALL about Brexit. Nothing else will be heard.

It's a disgraceful waste of public money.

There is absolutely no need for it other than to boost the ego of a narcissist, or several.

tobee · 09/09/2019 17:50

What about Nicky M.?

Belindabelle · 09/09/2019 17:51

You are missing a treat. Attorney General past (Grieve) and present (Cox) having a barny.

placemats · 09/09/2019 17:51

I read on twitter:

BBC Parliament channel is basically the new Love Island.

AutumnCrow · 09/09/2019 17:52

Bercow signalling he's happy to hear future points about Cummings and his treatment of the aide?

Alsohuman · 09/09/2019 17:52

There’s every need for it @placemats. We can’t go on like this with a minority discredited government.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 09/09/2019 17:54

Nick Boles MP
@NickBoles
· Sep 5
The parliamentary term is less than 3 days old and already the world has discovered what whose of us who have worked with Boris Johnson have always known: he is cowardly, weak, vindictive and without morals. Behold your Prime Minister, ladies and gentlemen.

Apileofballyhoo · 09/09/2019 17:55

History unfolding before our eyes. Grieve is pointing out over and over that this government is behaving in a very dangerous way.

placemats · 09/09/2019 17:56

This Parliament is discredited, not just the Government.

An election, once again, is a disgraceful waste of money.

Better put another referendum to the public.

And election solves NOTHING in regard to Brexit.

AutumnCrow · 09/09/2019 17:59

Sir Keir sounding very prime ministerial. Tom Brake (LD) makes interesting observation about MPs being shut out of information flow.

flouncyfanny · 09/09/2019 18:01

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Apileofballyhoo · 09/09/2019 18:01

Important question there as to the cost of No Deal - 2 billion or 8 billion - and I assume that's just the initial crisis cost, not the ongoing one.

placemats · 09/09/2019 18:04

Although, there is one thing about the election.

A clean sweep.

ERG out

Johnson the shortest running Prime Minister in history.

And perhaps Corbyn gone though he still hangs on with his finger nails

Basilpots · 09/09/2019 18:05

Not exactly 100’s of Tory MPs rushing to defend Johnson is there ?

BirdOffTheWire · 09/09/2019 18:05

Completely agree with placemats. But the next referendum needs to be properly worded and researched, on the Swiss model. So people can't say they don't know what they're voting for. It can't be simply binary.

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