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Westministenders: Is Boris going to give us one ?

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BigChocFrenzy · 07/09/2019 09:50

A General Election that is

Well, only when Corbyn lets him, not when BJ wants it.
So far as PM, BJ has lost 4 votes to zero wins - which is a record

BJ has been spraying around promises of billions in spending,
like a tomcat drunk on catnip, spraying the Magic Money Tree

SPADs have been forbidden to take holiday before 31 October
and of course that coup / prorogue to force No Deal and wank off the authoritarian vote

The prorogue also robs him of 5 more weeks time in which he could have forced a GE.
Whoops

BJ / Cum would ideally want a GE right after Brexit
to have achieved their No Deal, maximise their votes from the Faragist
.... all before the No Deal chickens come home to roost

Of course, as PM, BJ - or is Cummings the real PM ? - could change any pre-Brexit date that the naive think they have agreed

The Rebel Alliance have options to stop him:

BJ has sacked 21 MPs, so if the Alliance unite, they outnumber Con+DUP
Another Whoops
However, they have different aims and find it difficult to compromise
Some might prefer No Deal rather than the bogeyman Corbyn, because they don't do compromise

They could use a VoNC to replace BJ by Corbyn,
who would then ask for an extension and call a GE before Brexit
Stopping No Deal that way depends on Corbyn winning the GE - a HUGE gamble

Maybe he can use the slogan
"Brexit is the Tory project to make you forget the other Tory project: Austerity"

while to appeal to some pp, the Tories can use
"Vote to protect the bonuses of rich bankers"

Or if nothing happens by 19 October, MPs can vote for the WA, which would definitely stop No Deal
But that would require the HoC to make a decision - and it has spent several months avoiding that

Tick tock, No Deal is coming

Meanwhile, talks are ongoing for a Tory-Brexit party pact.
Reportedly, the hedge-fund donors won't fund a Tory GE campaign unless there is a pact:

www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/revealed-election-pact-between-johnson-and-farage-edges-closer/

How much money does it take to buy the UK governing party ? 🤔

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CendrillonSings · 07/09/2019 18:49

JustAnotherPoster00

Bad luck, looks like communism's on hold for now:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/07/tories-extend-lead-over-labour-to-10-despite-chaotic-week

NEW: Tories secure a 10-point lead in the latest @OpiniumResearch poll for @ObserverUK:

CON 35 (+3)
LAB 25 (-1)
LD 17 (+2)
BREX 13 (-3)

Myriade · 07/09/2019 18:49

I also agree with some PP that it still MUCH better than BJ. At the very least he isnt an authoritarian than wants to keep power st all cost.

Alsohuman · 07/09/2019 18:50

@placemats, that was entirely unnecessary. This thread’s one of the very few where people are civil.

JustAnotherPoster00 · 07/09/2019 18:51

Bad luck, looks like communism's on hold for now:

God dammit that made me pull a muscle cos I rolled my eyes so hard

Yeah those polls, May had it in the bag in 2017 didnt she? She hadnt even expelled 21 MP's from the party or made a non aggression pact with BXP

Basilpots · 07/09/2019 18:51

People chill your beans!!!

This is not like us.

It’s been a tough week for all we are not helping ourselves or each other.

Bearbehind · 07/09/2019 18:51

I’ve never said a WA wouldn’t go through now.

Only that it’s a cop out because it’s worse than what we have now but better than no deal so WTF was the point?

Alsohuman · 07/09/2019 18:52

@CendrillonSings, current polls are meaningless, they’ll change constantly between now and polling day.

bellinisurge · 07/09/2019 18:53

Bear, it is a major change from your previous position to say WA would go through now. That is the direction of travel we need.

Bearbehind · 07/09/2019 18:54

It’s been a tough week for all we are not helping ourselves or each other.

I know I’m the main problem here but I do actually agree 😂

I’m just tying to make the point that we can’t rewind the clock for the last 3 years.

It’s pointless talking about how we Remainers would compromise - we always knew we had to.

We need Leavers to compromise and they don’t appear to be willing to.

Basilpots · 07/09/2019 18:54

Bear
I’m out too you are posting for effect it’s tedious.

We get it you don’t like Labour or Corbyn.

CendrillonSings · 07/09/2019 18:56

current polls are meaningless, they’ll change constantly between now and polling day.

Yes, I'm sure the polls that show your side - and especially cowardly Corbyn - getting utterly smashed are meaningless!

How convenient for you Grin

bellinisurge · 07/09/2019 18:57

If enough of them support WA or an NI only backstop (which I believe they will) we can leave. I think there are enough Leavers in the Commons who would support that.

Bearbehind · 07/09/2019 18:57

it is a major change from your previous position to say WA would go through now

It’s not at all.

I still don’t believe a NI only backstop will go through but a UK only one could if BJ had the balls to spin it.

The problem is he’s gone so far against it, he’s probably screwed the chances of it actually passing.

If he’d kept quieter and then said there had been changes agreed by the EU, he probably could have winged it.

CendrillonSings · 07/09/2019 18:58

Yeah those polls, May had it in the bag in 2017 didnt she? She hadnt even expelled 21 MP's from the party or made a non aggression pact with BXP

Your guy lost in 2017, and looks well on his way to being a loser once again. Boris going up after this week's abysmal headlines? Delicious!

CendrillonSings · 07/09/2019 19:00

Those chickens had better keep running from the electorate, 'cos they feel like chicken tonight! Grin

bellinisurge · 07/09/2019 19:00

Bear , he has already punted an all-Ireland solution for livestock. I don't think it is too far a leap for him to support an all Ireland economy generally, including the customs union and single market. I really don't.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 07/09/2019 19:00

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Bearbehind · 07/09/2019 19:01

We all know you don’t bellini but that doesn’t win him the next GE.

flouncyfanny · 07/09/2019 19:02

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Bearbehind · 07/09/2019 19:03

Your opinions, as with mine matter for shit unfortunately. I wish they really meant more but they don't and there is little point in insulting each other

Ain’t that the truth ☹️

Alsohuman · 07/09/2019 19:03

@CendrillonSings, the polls forecast a landslide for May before the 2017 campaign. That went well, didn’t it?

Peregrina · 07/09/2019 19:04

May lost also in 2017 which is why she ran to cut a deal with the DUP.
May could do no wrong until that disastrous election; if she'd not had that with a small but working majority she would have got her deal through and still probably be PM.

However to cheer people up, here is what Gove once said - the man who now thinks No Deal is the way to go:
twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1170254648420249600

bellinisurge · 07/09/2019 19:04

If he can get a Leave on that basis, it might.

prettybird · 07/09/2019 19:04

The reason I quite specifically said that the rest of the world will see what sort of country England is and the direction it wants to take is because it doesn't matter what Scotland and NI (or Wales for that matter Sad) vote, what England wants, England will get. Hmm

But if it does vote for No Deal and to break an International Treaty, the even older treaty (of Union) will be dissolved and Scotland will be independent - although not the way I would have liked it to happen. And there will be a Border Poll and there will be a United Ireland - probably sooner then Ireland would have liked, and with NI more chaotic than it wanted, but a necessary step to try to return stability to the island of Ireland.

flouncyfanny · 07/09/2019 19:04

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