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Westminstenders: The House Is On Fire

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RedToothBrush · 03/09/2019 13:01

Have we walked into a trap or has the trap shut on the fingers of Johnson?

To early to tell but we have entered an All or Nothing Game.

Johnson seems to have been advised his only way out is a GE - the polls look decent to him. Yet the FTPA means he can not call one without parliaments consent.

He has tried to spook Tory MPs to his will by threatening de-selection. Yet this seemed to have backfired in combination with proroguing and fired up rebels and moderates.

This might still be deliberate though to remove the road block of an internal civil war in the Tory Party. In cleansing moderates though they become the Brexit Party...

... And Spreadsheet Phil has vowed to fight to the last for his party from entryists and non members like Cummings. After first getting support of his local association.

Tonight sees a vote at around 9pm, which is touted as a pseudo no confidence vote.

If this block no deal then tomorrow we face a big day. It looks like there are numbers to do this.

Rebels are looking to seize control of parliamentary time (which might affect prorogation timetable). This is a beefed up version of the previous attempt to do this.

This is around 3pm - 7pm tomorrow.

No 10 has a spad meeting at 7pm, which presumably is about fallout from that vote - and if it goes against government will probably be about trying to force an election.

If he can.

Labour now have leverage though. They can make demands and insist they are in law before agreeing to a GE on Johnson's terms.

Which perhaps makes a GE less likely than the BBC seem to think.

There is talk of trying to force another extension to 31st Jan. I'm not entirely sure how this helps, without a legitimate goal of a deal that goes with it. All it does is push things even more polarised.

And that's my fear. The issue of Brexit isn't going away. No deal, a deal and remaining all leave significant numbers highly dissatisfied. Its hard to see a way out of this without unrest because its been pushed so hard in a polarising way.

If Johnson fails to no deal or to deal on his terms where does this push Farage sympathisers?

We shall see what happens...

... Will the House's independence survive until Nov 5th?

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prettybird · 03/09/2019 22:14

So BlowJobCum confirms a a motion under the FTPA. Surprise, surprise.

Now will Corbyn jump in to the trap?

BigChocFrenzy · 03/09/2019 22:14

Lewis Goodall@lewis_goodall

IT’S ON.

Boris Johnson is tanking a motion under the Fixed Term Parliaments Act.

He wants an election.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 03/09/2019 22:14

It’s not like he’s even coming out with new lies either. It’s the same old lies.

Dontlickthetrolley · 03/09/2019 22:14

@boatyyardblues don't know if you're watching on an HD channel but there is always a few seconds delay. I'm on sky 504 and is running the same as everyone else (I think!)

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 03/09/2019 22:14

I reckon that MP had it right, he's a whiny man child who's not getting his way

NoWordForFluffy · 03/09/2019 22:15

That's what I just said to DH, Singing.

Horehound · 03/09/2019 22:15

I'm not sure why we want a delay to Jan Confused

RedToothBrush · 03/09/2019 22:15

Johnson tables election motion under Fixed Term Parliament Act

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MarshaBradyo · 03/09/2019 22:15

Brilliant

boatyardblues · 03/09/2019 22:15

AppleTV box and iPlayer App.

BeardedMum · 03/09/2019 22:16

Hurrah

Sarahlou63 · 03/09/2019 22:16

Oh, I fucking luff John Bercow!!!

Motheroffourdragons · 03/09/2019 22:16

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prettybird · 03/09/2019 22:17

Looks like Corbyn is not falling in to the trap. Bring the Deal/No Deal vote first. Kudos where kudos is due, if that is the case.

BlowJob looks furious. Grin

tobee · 03/09/2019 22:17

Looking forward to seeing names of rebels etc

Yamayo · 03/09/2019 22:17

Bercow is pretty fantastic tonight.

SansaSnark · 03/09/2019 22:17

@Motheroffourdragons that's what I think he's said too.

BigChocFrenzy · 03/09/2019 22:17

Not doing nearly as well as May !
(look at Blair's 2929 days without a loss)

Lewis Goodall@lewis_goodall

Days before first defeats in office:

Attlee: 1707
Churchill: 747
Wilson: 385
Heath: 675
Callaghan: 84
Thatcher: 1321
Major: 831
Blair: 2929
Brown: 672
Cameron: 574

May: 462
Johnson: 42

Propertyofhood · 03/09/2019 22:18

Bercow has obviously been somewhere nice and hot for his hols, great tan!

3dogs2cats · 03/09/2019 22:18

Who was Bercow telling off at the end?

Motheroffourdragons · 03/09/2019 22:18

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OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 03/09/2019 22:18

Bercow knows Gove isn't a real boy, he's just a puppet

ListeningQuietly · 03/09/2019 22:18

Blimey, did Corbyn just sidestep the FTPA trap and save the country ?
SHOCKED

BigChocFrenzy · 03/09/2019 22:19

"Bring the Deal/No Deal vote first."

AND make sure it is binding

MarshaBradyo · 03/09/2019 22:19

Brilliant

recalcitrant school boys Johnson Mogg eat all

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