It looks like Johnson is getting ready to call an election

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So why might that be? (genuine question, struggling to follow all this stuff)
Is he anticipating a huge win, giving him a mandate for what he does next? A bit like May in 2017?

Oh ignore

That was another time I’m guessing

Beg to disagree Bertrand. He can be very lively when the children are chanting his name.
Spouts crap, but does it wholeheartedly and with fervour.

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but does it wholeheartedly and with fervour

Yes i agree

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think im gonna struggle today...basic comprehension failure

They've voted to take control. What will happen next?

I've just advised DS (aged 18 in Oct) that he'll be exercising his right to vote very soon. He's a good lad, no one can sway him, not even me.

I'm sure he'll vote for the candidate he thinks best, just like I do.

Yes- I have a very excited first time voter who can’t wait too!

Same.

Bertrand and hate, do you have any idea who yours might vote for? Do they know who you vote for?

No and No are the answers to both of your questions autumn - we might both have 'ideas' about what the other thinks, but in reality neither of us knows for sure.

I'm very happy with that.

This will be ds1 second election

We did discuss voting preferences last time

Mine knows who I vote for because we’re a “political” house and there have always been heaps of campaigning material about. I wouldn’t ask him how he votes. He is certainly more centrist than me.

As it's a GE, and in my area we are usually lucky to have a wide range of candidates to choose from, my vote will be based on 'behaviour' in Parliament and not Brexit. Unless, another candidate pulls something out of a hat it looks like I'll be voting Tory (quite possibly for the first time ever since I first voted in the late 1970s!).

I have no idea who DS will vote for, maybe Brexit Party, maybe Green or an Indie that takes his fancy.

They've voted to take control. What will happen next?

I'm almost certain Johnson's response to the outcome of the vote was to threaten to call a GE tomorrow, to try to stop the new bill having time to pass through its stages this week. He was not impressed by tonight's result. Earlier, an opposition MP called him a "petulant manchild" and he certainly lived up to that epithet in his reaction to the vote straight after it was declared.

I think tonight is all part of Johnson’s masterplan. There will be a lot of very nervous MP’s in marginal seats on both sides. A lot of Labour towns were hugely in favour of Brexit and I can see a lot of them being very unhappy with their own MP’s effectively voting against their wishes with these constant delaying tactics.

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Only 30% of Labour voters voted Leave, there are fewer of them than you’d think.

Adutt7.

I don't know if this is the master plan but nervous seats is what I'm thinking.
I can mot fathom what they think they are doing.

Phew! Relief to hear dc being raised in open level headed household's where all sides discussed or at least accepted.
I'm also raising independent thinkers and would never make them feel good or bad no matter who they would want to vote for.

Df was staunch never vote tory Labour, I'm swing voter and feel proud that he never tried to brain wash me! He always discussed issues openly without pronouncing right or wrong.

Pretty much sums the whole thing up I think ADUT - lots of pissed off people will be voting in ways they might not normally. I am finally a pissed off voter myself - Parl has been debating away and to itself for too long now - maybe it can keep debating itself to the PNR as far as Brexit is concerned.

Boris is correct - the electorate don't want anothe GE, even Labour don't - but that's what's going to happen. And the pissed-off with Parl voters will be voting against the chit-chat.

Only 30% of Labour voters voted Leave, there are fewer of them than you’d think

Some estimates are 60% based on the constituencies that voted leave in 2016. South Wales, middle England and Northern England which are mostly labour areas gave big support for leave in 2016.

On a constituency basis the 2016 result was;

406 voted leave

242 voted remain.

The estimate for labour is

148 constituencies voted leave

84 voted remain.

Might explain why Corbyn does not want a General Election as it will almost certainly revolve around Brexit. His suggestion that Law should be passed that prevents no deal before a General Election is held is a giveaway.

Same for Caroline Lucas wanting a referendum before a General Election. Referendum is based on %, whereas GE based on seats which would favour leave.

The referendum results weren’t counted by constituency, there’s no hard data as to how constituencies voted. Only 20% of constituencies are known.

The overall national vote of individuals was very close - 48/52, much closer than the vote per Parliamentary seat - 64% seats voted Leave.

In constituencies where the vote is unknown and estimates suggest the vote was close - it’s still uncertain whether they voted Leave/Remain.

Why do so many people keep parroting the far Right's lie - that people who voted Leave voted for the certain economic destruction that 'no deal' will cause? There are plenty of Leave-minded MPs who voted against the government last night precisely because Johnson is only pretending he's seeking a deal in the best interests of the majority in the UK. There's been plenty of proof of his sham act in the last few days, so that even people previously blind or naive enough not to see him for what he is can't claim otherwise now. But that would mean admitting they were 'wrong' and there are far too many heavily-defended people in the UK for that to make the difference it ought to at this dangerous stage. They'll fall for all the demonising of Corbyn too, without questioning why that has happened and which vested interests perpetuate those untruths.

Johnson has no right to speak for me and millions of others when he self-righteously claims 'the people don' t want a GE'. Myself and plenty of others definitely want a public vote that might just undo some of the unforgivable damage inflicted by this insular little party since 2010. They've made it up as they've gone along and caused countless deaths and massive poverty (plus poverty's inevitable offspring, increase in violent crime), while decimating public services and thieving taxpayers money from local government in deeply prejudicial sums, according to postcode. It has to fucking stop. I'm done with the wholesale abuse of my sense of home and belonging in this fractured Tory dystopia.

Bring on a fair fight. Or more realistically, a GE that will have the Tory broadsheets and tabloids reinforcing every small-minded prejudice that Little Britishers can identify in themselves. Who knows, the whole desperately sad enterprise might just fall apart enough to let in some light. Because many people here (and some far younger than me) have a maturity that belies the pathetic war cries of no deal Brexit. Their time will come, although, lamentably, I fear a far bloodier stage of this crisis might come first. Because the far Right are out for blood, make no mistake, and they have the spiteful, moneyed influence to see that plenty is spilt in their bid for the twisted hearts and minds of the old order.

Only 20% of constituencies are known

Not heard that before. Which are the 20 constituencies that are known? How was the data collected? Any links to look at as I am curious.

fullfact.org/online/referendum-results-by-constituency/