Do you judge people on how they voted?

[Rock4please]

Just that really. I used to have an open mind on meeting somebody new but, if I discover that they voted leave, I am not interested in furthering the relationship. Similarly, with Americans, I don’t want to associate with anyone who supports Trump.

Am I being unfair and narrow minded or do you judge new people in a similar way?

You can not compare the UK with Norway. Norway was never in the EU and it’s a completely different country and managed its oil very well (which the UK did not).

Norway has less control of its borders though as in Schengen which UK is not of course. Not that most leavers would know what Schengen is.

But we aren't stereotypes, we are individuals. Misguided sometimes -yes, wrong sometimes-yes

A vote conducted after 10 years of austerity and no pay rises on a matter that is now so cut and dried was extremely irresponsible politics. What are they paid for, these people trusted to act in our best interests?

What is next? A referendum on whether we can pass wind in our own homes?

Maybe if our education system wasn't so poor at the comprehensive level, this would never have happened. But let's all blame the lowest denominator in the equation, because that is easy.

Anyone who has ever found Forage anything other than ridiculous and dangerous would be on my delete list, but my leave friends are not morons, they are highly qualified senior civil servants relying on information available via ONS.

When I voted leave I thought it would be a good thing to make our decisions, to do away with some of the silly rules from Brussels like throwing dead cod back in the sea. Cameron had been to the EU to try to negotiate better terms because of the growing anti EU sentiment in the UK and they had refused. The EU had intentions of moving to a more controlling state. I was unsure which way to vote. I watched lots of debates and felt that if ‘experts’ were telling me the UK could do well outside of the EU, it could be better for the NHS . That’s it. I had no idea that it would be this difficult. I’m still unsure but am so sick of it I just want to leave or remain to get past this indecision and focus on domestic matters.

@Redspider1

Did the implications for the peace in Ireland not concern you? Or Gibraltar?

This is obviously a generalisation but bears out in this thread. I notice the vast majority of people who have problems with how other people voted are people who voted to remain in the EU and who vote Labour. You have no idea why someone vote to leave but you judge them as racists and thick. You have no idea why people vote conservative but they are all evil bastards who want to kill the poor and disabled. It's quite pathetic really.

Respider, any form of leave means decades more of this.

OliviaPopeRules

Where do you get the 'and who vote Labour ' bit from? I can't see mention of that?

KennDodd Fair comment about this thread but I do see that sentiment a lot on MN generally.

KenDodd - Just because à person voted leave doesn't mean they share the views of Tommy Robinson. He is far-right which I don't think the majority of leavers are.

ken rather naively I thought that those things had been considered . Being from an Irish background, I would rather there was no border in Ireland at all and the ‘whole’ country be separated from England but that’s another thread.

Yes I did but I expected the educated politicians to sort it out . I still can’t believe the vote went ahead with such a simple yes or no outcome.

BeardedMum You seem to think all leavers are not educated enough to know as much as you?

What if, perhaps once we leave (if we ever do) things really aren't as awful. I'm not saying it won't be however hypothetically speaking if we leave and actually the UK finds it's balance will those who have spouted such vitriol at leavers apologise? Admit they were rather abusive or just say nothing and pretend they weren't one of 'those'?

That will never happen - the apology I mean. Anything that goes wrong for the next 50 years will be blamed on the facist brexiters!

Respider, any form of leave means decades more of this

I agree.

The only way out of this mess I can see would be another referendum, no deal v Remain where Remain wins a huge majority 70%+. That would shut the likes of Farage up (well it wouldn't but he wouldn't have the following) . Can't see that happening though. Even if Brexit had huge public support (it doesn't) so no division in society it would still throw up huge problems that will affect us for decades. I'm 50, I fear I would live to see the end of this. Even Ress-Mogg says it'll be 50 years to see the benefits, I actually think we'll be back in the EU long before then.

What if, perhaps once we leave (if we ever do) things really aren't as awful.

What do you mean "as awful"? They are supposed to be better than the previous situation. Doubt it very much.

There will always be people like Farage and Boris, etc.

Voters should use their brains better than to trust people like these. It's mind boggling how anyone can take them seriously and trust anything they say.
Other than wishful thinking of the type "we're the greatest nation on Earth and don't need anyone else".

I asked hypothetically, seems remainers cannot do hypothesis...oh wait...

When we leave the remain voters will still keep the country in limbo by not accepting the democratic vote. They will go out of their way to prove themselves right, including destroying friendships and peoples lives if they get in the way. I’ve never seen the left be so aggressive and rude, until now. Their true colours have shown. It’s strange how the left want a better future for the many not the few, but can’t show it

Oh, we can do hypothesis, but we can also evaluate them.

QueenOfIce And you wonder why people won’t respect you

I see the BeLeaver = victim stuff is still going on here. You won. Get over it. Own any shit that tbe next couple of years brings. Because you will no doubt claim any glory that's going.
Fwiw, I want nothing more than to be wrong; to be humiliated. That would be a fantastic outcome. Egg on my face is a small price to pay for a near future of peace and prosperity.
By the same token, if I am right, every No Deal merchant on here is responsible. And I will blame you.

Hypothetically, I can't see the Quitlings coming on and apologising for the anticipated deaths, shortages, etc., that they insisted would never happen even if they already are . Can you?

When we leave the remain voters will still keep the country in limbo by not accepting the democratic vote. They will go out of their way to prove themselves right, including destroying friendships and peoples lives if they get in the way. I’ve never seen the left be so aggressive and rude, until now.

What do you mean? That people will undermine services to show that Brexit is wrong?
It's because Remainers worry about people and the UK that they wanted to remain.
OTOH, why would anyone want to be friends with people who shoot them on purpose?

It's high time that the left is aggressive and rude. Being nice and polite led to Brexit.

Anything that goes wrong for the next 50 years will be blamed on the facist brexiters!

Actually, I agree. I don't know if you'll be blamed for things that are demonstrably NOT the fault of Brexit though in the way Leavers/Tory press/government have blamed the EU for things that are not their fault and in the case of our government, have blamed the EU for things 100% within their own power and nothing to do with the EU. Hopefully we (as a nation) will have learnt to fact check and trust experts more than loud mouth lying politicians.

I wasn’t convinced by Boris. But I was influenced by the other leave campaigners . Can’t remember the German woman’s name but I was impressed by her rhetoric during the debates particularly as she was European. I remember feeling so let down, when after the result she and Boris were nowhere to be seen!!