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Westminstenders: Prime Minister Johnson

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RedToothBrush · 23/07/2019 22:58

It is actually happening.

By 5pm tomorrow Johnson should be Prime Minister, if nothing major goes wrong for him.

Phillip Hammond is expected to resign early in the morning. And there maybe others.

Parliament goes into recess on Thursday. Giving Johnson only enough time to announce a Cabinet and maybe give a brief statement in Parliament.

As it stands Johnson will have an effective majority of 1 if the Brecon by-election goes the way expected next week.

Unless someone else defects. Which isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

We also have Charlie Elphicke now suspended and facing a court appearance on 6th September, just 3 days after Parliament returns after the summer recess.

Remember when parliament returns Johnson must get a Queen's Speech vote to pass to start the new session.

The return of Parliament is 8 weeks before 31st October.

If Johnson can't pass a Queen's Speech... Is there time for a GE before 31st October? By the skin of our teeth? Or a crucial recall petition?

So for all the talk that parliament can we prevented from being prorogued or that we can get a deal by the 31st October, there is a GE shaped problem.

As for Johnson's plan for Brexit. Don't expect to see him say anything but waffly bollocks before that key Queens Speech vote. He can't. Instead expect lots of domestic promises - in part to distract, in part in prep for a possible snap election.

Of course to have an extension the Prime Minister needs to ask for it. Would a GE be enough to get one? And would we be granted one?

On the flip to that is the prospect of May's Deal. Much has been made of its death. But some have said its premature to say that. At the eleventh hour should the situation arise would parliament vote for it, backstop and all, to prevent no deal? Its not beyond the realms of possibility.

All the talk of Johnson driving a change of direction by the force of personality is nonsense. Johnson can use his personality domestically for support, but he his personality offers nothing to the EU.

On top of this all we have the Iran Oil Tanker Crisis. The US were alleged to have set us up, and now told us to look after our own tankers. Leaving us to look to Europe for international security cooperation in the area... Irony isn't lost.

Let us see what tomorrow might bring though...

Westminstenders: Prime Minister Johnson
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OublietteBravo · 24/07/2019 22:28

Julian Smith gets Northern Ireland. Interesting.

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 22:29

I am upset about Penny Mourdant. I would take her at Defence over Raab any day. Mind you I would take anybody over Raab any day.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 22:29

Is there a way out of this mess?

Well social darwinism does have its sunny upsides.

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ElizabethG81 · 24/07/2019 22:32

Every single member of this cabinet is a cunt by default, but I'm especially disappointed with those who've previously been vocally against No Deal. Power/money grabbing opportunists. I'll be just as disappointed if all those who have now left cabinet don't step up and deal with this asap. Who cares about the fucking Tory party? Do the right thing for the country for once. There's no way Corbyn could be worse than this shitshow.

Grinchly · 24/07/2019 22:32

Larry is making a point.

He has been sprawling on the doorstep of Number Ten throughout the O B for news at Ten!GrinGrinGrin

I imagine he is missing Philip May and worried about Johnson and the wine stained sofas.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 22:33

Shehab Khan @shehabkhan
Several Tory MPs I spoke to this morning repeatedly said they expected Johnson to appoint a very balanced cabinet, with an even split between Leavers and Remainers - this is anything but. Going to be a lot of Tory MPs tonight wondering what will happen in the coming weeks.

This is very much a case of moderates only wanting to believe what they wanted rather than thinking very hard.

This is a shock how exactly?

Idiots.

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Alsohuman · 24/07/2019 22:33

Apparently Larry’s scared to go in.

yolofish · 24/07/2019 22:34

God, I hope Johnson is not horrible to Larry? Carrie doesnt look like a cat lover either... and cats don't generally enjoy domestic bust-ups.

I suspect Theresa and Philip may have rather liked him.

Lumene · 24/07/2019 22:34

Smith gets on OK with the DUP, I suspect that’s why he got NI.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 22:34

There's no way Corbyn could be worse than this shitshow.

Would I vote Labour over Theresa Mays government? Never.
Would I vote Labour over this Johnson government? Yes.

I doubt I'm alone.

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BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2019 22:36

no deal IS the default

MPs would have to vote for something else - and they voted repeatedly against the WA when offered

All they have left is the nuclear option - GE - and early enough to avoid runnng over Brexit

With the 14-day period after a VoNC is passed, before a GE is called (assuming noone can command a majority in the HoC)
they would have to call a VoNC very soon after they return from recess in early Sept.

Lumene · 24/07/2019 22:36

There's no way Corbyn could be worse than this shitshow.

Unfortunately there is. And I am banging my head against a wall with BJ and his gang of theives and weasels.

Lumene · 24/07/2019 22:36

Thieves

Butterymuffin · 24/07/2019 22:37

Interesting that Rees Mogg has been in but not named in any job still. I genuinely think he does not want a cabinet post. Can't then make demands on behalf of the ERG.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 22:38

James Ball @jamesrball
The return of people like Patel and Williamson to Cabinet in this way is truly corrosive – it’s not just about them.

It signals to ministers, MPs and the public alike that misconduct doesn’t really matter – and destroys with it vital social norms.

Drain the swamp.

Oh.

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Alsohuman · 24/07/2019 22:39

It seems 10,000 people have joined the LibDems today. That gives me hope.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2019 22:39

Tory moderates keep expecting Brexiters to be fair and live up to their vague promises
Idiots indeed

They'll keep expecting BJ to do the right thing, right up until they wake up on 1 Nov to No Deal.

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 22:40

Honestly I am scared. Forget about Brexit for a minute.

Priti “hang them high” Patel as HS
Dom “where is Dover” Raab as FS

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2019 22:41

"Drain the swamp" and bring the alligators into government

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 22:41

With the 14-day period after a VoNC is passed, before a GE is called (assuming noone can command a majority in the HoC) they would have to call a VoNC very soon after they return from recess in early Sept.

They have three days to it by my calculations. 3rd, 4th and 5th Sept. Get to the Friday of that first week and they can't do it.

Johnson needs to pass the Queens Speech too though so that'll be crucial.

Fun times.

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BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2019 22:42

10,000 people Shock
(9,900 former Tory moderates ?)

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 22:42

JRM is leader and Clovelly is Chairman

derxa · 24/07/2019 22:43

Every single member of this cabinet is a cunt by default Unfortunately I agree with you. What's going on?

Grinchly · 24/07/2019 22:43

Yes I think he's missing them but my money is on Philip as cat lover.
Neither Johnson nor his gf strike me as cat people. Will Stand corrected though!
Fortunately there will be lots of others within number 10 to help him to adjust.

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 22:43

Cleverly

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