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Westminstenders: Prime Minister Johnson

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RedToothBrush · 23/07/2019 22:58

It is actually happening.

By 5pm tomorrow Johnson should be Prime Minister, if nothing major goes wrong for him.

Phillip Hammond is expected to resign early in the morning. And there maybe others.

Parliament goes into recess on Thursday. Giving Johnson only enough time to announce a Cabinet and maybe give a brief statement in Parliament.

As it stands Johnson will have an effective majority of 1 if the Brecon by-election goes the way expected next week.

Unless someone else defects. Which isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

We also have Charlie Elphicke now suspended and facing a court appearance on 6th September, just 3 days after Parliament returns after the summer recess.

Remember when parliament returns Johnson must get a Queen's Speech vote to pass to start the new session.

The return of Parliament is 8 weeks before 31st October.

If Johnson can't pass a Queen's Speech... Is there time for a GE before 31st October? By the skin of our teeth? Or a crucial recall petition?

So for all the talk that parliament can we prevented from being prorogued or that we can get a deal by the 31st October, there is a GE shaped problem.

As for Johnson's plan for Brexit. Don't expect to see him say anything but waffly bollocks before that key Queens Speech vote. He can't. Instead expect lots of domestic promises - in part to distract, in part in prep for a possible snap election.

Of course to have an extension the Prime Minister needs to ask for it. Would a GE be enough to get one? And would we be granted one?

On the flip to that is the prospect of May's Deal. Much has been made of its death. But some have said its premature to say that. At the eleventh hour should the situation arise would parliament vote for it, backstop and all, to prevent no deal? Its not beyond the realms of possibility.

All the talk of Johnson driving a change of direction by the force of personality is nonsense. Johnson can use his personality domestically for support, but he his personality offers nothing to the EU.

On top of this all we have the Iran Oil Tanker Crisis. The US were alleged to have set us up, and now told us to look after our own tankers. Leaving us to look to Europe for international security cooperation in the area... Irony isn't lost.

Let us see what tomorrow might bring though...

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Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 22:02

Amber Rudd kept her job at DWP

PigeonofDoom · 24/07/2019 22:03

Anyone want to place bets on how long Patel, Raab er al will stay in the country when it goes to shit after a no deal brexit? 10 minutes? 20?
Bet they’ll bugger off to the states quicker than you can blink, leaving everyone else (ie remainers) to clear up their mess. Leavers don’t do responsibility, it requires telling the truth and being a grown up.
Also, that’s my industry effectively screwed. All because the tory party have lost their marbles.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 22:03

Ian Dunt@iandunt
I'll actually be disappointed if Mogg doesn't get something. Might as well go all out at this point. Turn it into a children's cartoon.

It's funny how none of this lot had a plan back in 2016. Now the plan is fuck up the country and give up Sovereignty, destroy the NHS and screw the welfare state.

sigh

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The80sweregreat · 24/07/2019 22:03

Love bombing more like love dumping.

tobee · 24/07/2019 22:03

Yeah and he's got to save some energy for his marathon shagging session with Carrie with the aphrodisiac of being chez no 10 Justabout. Envy

SistemaAddict · 24/07/2019 22:04

^

NoWordForFluffy · 24/07/2019 22:04

Apparently the LDs have had 1,000 new members today, 6,000 in last 48 hours.

I honestly believe parliament will actually have more fire in its belly to stop the BJ administration than the TM one. Roll on September.

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 22:04

I think Mogg will get party chairman

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 22:05

What I can't figure out is when he is planning a general election - before 31st Oct or after?

Doesn't matter. Either way works for him. Or calling a GE at end of sept / start of Oct so parliament is suspended so no deal can't be stopped.

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The80sweregreat · 24/07/2019 22:05

Carrie looks high maintenance and haughty.

MmeBufo · 24/07/2019 22:06

No. Rudd is official

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RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 22:08

I note that Gove gets Lidington's job. It's the one where detail is important and will effectively run no deal. I also suspect he will be working closely with Cummings in that role.

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ListeningQuietly · 24/07/2019 22:09

Corbyn has to be ousted for the sake of the country.

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 22:10

Still can’t get over Raab being Deputy PM.

The80sweregreat · 24/07/2019 22:10

Labour Party members need to rise up and get him to just go , somehow.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 22:11

Steve Hawkes @steve_hawkes
I wonder how many Labour MPs wish they'd back Theresa May's Brexit deal now?

cough --what did we say BCF? cough

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LisaMontgomery · 24/07/2019 22:13

Or calling a GE at end of sept / start of Oct so parliament is suspended so no deal can't be stopped.

I thought he couldn't do that anymore due to the fixed term parliament act?

The fact that HoC is dead set against No Deal is the small ray of hope I have at the moment.

Alsohuman · 24/07/2019 22:16

May managed it so I’m sure Johnson can. However, I don’t think he’ll get the chance, he’ll be no confidenced before that.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 22:17

I thought he couldn't do that anymore due to the fixed term parliament act?

Repeal the act or vonc.

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derxa · 24/07/2019 22:21

Rudd is official Oh Amber I thought better of you. Maybe you need the money

Belindabelle · 24/07/2019 22:24

Joe Johnson being given something too. Excellent to get a bit of nepotism along with the favouritism. Actually I rate Joe so let’s see.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 22:25

Rights info @rights_info
Prime Minister Boris is assembling his new cabinet as we speak.

How does his team stack up on human rights?

Read our primer to find out:

Sajid Javid is appointed Chancellor. As Home Secretary he pledged to "do right" by the Windrush generation and hinted at ending indefinite immigration detention. But he rendered east London 19-year-old Shamima Begum stateless when he stripped her of her British citizenship.

Priti Patel is appointed Home Secretary. Before entering politics, Patel worked as a lobbyist for British American Tobacco (BAT), aiming to improve their negative image. She has publicly argued in favour of the death penalty and against prisoners voting rights.

Dominic Raab is appointed Foreign Secretary. The former Brexit Secretary has been an outspoken critic of the Human Rights Act – claiming that it is "rushed" and "flawed".

Michael Gove is Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster. He has previously served as Justice Secretary and, most recently, Environment Secretary. As Justice Sec, he promised to replace the Human Rights Act with a British Bill of Rights.

Liz Truss is International Trade Secretary. She was Lord Chancellor and Justice Sec in July 2016 until June 2017 – the first woman to be appointed to the role. She reaffirmed the Tory party's pledge to replace the Human Rights Act with British Bill of Rights multiple times.

Stephen Barclay stays as Brexit Secretary, to which he was appointed in November last year – his first cabinet position. He backed gay marriage in 2013. But, as the Mirror reported in 2013, he also backed the bedroom tax despite asking for £24,226.09 in accommodation expenses.

Matt Hancock stays as Health Secretary. In November, he ordered @CareQualityComm to investigate the practice of locking people with learning disabilities and autism in segregated hospitals indefinitely. “I will not let these people down – they deserve better,” he said.

Andrea Leadsom is Business Secretary. In 2013, she "positively abstained" from equal marriage in 2013, saying that while she wanted to support gay rights, she could not “vote for a measure that risks centuries of faith based belief in marriage as between a man and a woman.”

Amber Rudd stays as Work & Pensions Secretary. She served as Home Sec in 2015/16, where it emerged her department had been setting targets for deporting undocumented immigrants. She denied knowledge of this when pressed by @YvetteCooperMP. But leaked memos suggest she did know.

Ben Wallace is Defence Sec, having been promoted from security minister within the Home Office. He has consistently voted against same-sex marriage. He also worked to push through the Counter Terrorism and Border Security Act, which has criminalised travel to 'designated areas'

Gavin Williamson is Education Secretary. As Defence Secretary, he set up a £2million centre aimed a training militaries to respect and protect civilians human rights in conflict. However, he also called on the UK to hunt down and kill all British Isis fighters.

rightsinfo.org/where-does-boris-johnsons-new-cabinet-stand-on-human-rights/
Where Does Boris Johnson’s New Cabinet Stand On Human Rights?

You didn't like your rights much anyway did you?

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LisaMontgomery · 24/07/2019 22:26

Repeal the act or vonc.

But both of those need a majority in HoC. If MPs are determined to avoid no deal presumably they aren't stupid enough to vote to call a GE, thus dissolving parliament and causing an "accidental" no deal by default. Or maybe I'm putting too much faith in MPs.

BigChocFrenzy · 24/07/2019 22:27

Yep, red < cough >

Those holding out for their dream ... and getting their worst nightmare

BeardedMum · 24/07/2019 22:28

Is there a way out of this mess?