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Westminstenders: Prime Minister Johnson

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RedToothBrush · 23/07/2019 22:58

It is actually happening.

By 5pm tomorrow Johnson should be Prime Minister, if nothing major goes wrong for him.

Phillip Hammond is expected to resign early in the morning. And there maybe others.

Parliament goes into recess on Thursday. Giving Johnson only enough time to announce a Cabinet and maybe give a brief statement in Parliament.

As it stands Johnson will have an effective majority of 1 if the Brecon by-election goes the way expected next week.

Unless someone else defects. Which isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

We also have Charlie Elphicke now suspended and facing a court appearance on 6th September, just 3 days after Parliament returns after the summer recess.

Remember when parliament returns Johnson must get a Queen's Speech vote to pass to start the new session.

The return of Parliament is 8 weeks before 31st October.

If Johnson can't pass a Queen's Speech... Is there time for a GE before 31st October? By the skin of our teeth? Or a crucial recall petition?

So for all the talk that parliament can we prevented from being prorogued or that we can get a deal by the 31st October, there is a GE shaped problem.

As for Johnson's plan for Brexit. Don't expect to see him say anything but waffly bollocks before that key Queens Speech vote. He can't. Instead expect lots of domestic promises - in part to distract, in part in prep for a possible snap election.

Of course to have an extension the Prime Minister needs to ask for it. Would a GE be enough to get one? And would we be granted one?

On the flip to that is the prospect of May's Deal. Much has been made of its death. But some have said its premature to say that. At the eleventh hour should the situation arise would parliament vote for it, backstop and all, to prevent no deal? Its not beyond the realms of possibility.

All the talk of Johnson driving a change of direction by the force of personality is nonsense. Johnson can use his personality domestically for support, but he his personality offers nothing to the EU.

On top of this all we have the Iran Oil Tanker Crisis. The US were alleged to have set us up, and now told us to look after our own tankers. Leaving us to look to Europe for international security cooperation in the area... Irony isn't lost.

Let us see what tomorrow might bring though...

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horseshit · 24/07/2019 17:04

Mordaunt and Fox are out.

RedToothBrush · 24/07/2019 17:04

Do you think Fox's department is going to simply be abolished?

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tobee · 24/07/2019 17:05

Thanks CherrySmile

Don't hold your breath about Corbyn going The80s.

Anyway, as I and others have said before, who will take over? Rebecca Long Bailey? Help!

Liam Fox has gone.
Weird

TokyoSushi · 24/07/2019 17:05

Greg Clark has resigned

tobee · 24/07/2019 17:07

Yeah ok then Hester! Hmm

SistemaAddict · 24/07/2019 17:07

I was referring to a pp when I said someone was on glue but I've just listened to boorish's speech and I think he's taken a snout full himself today.
Yep, he's stolen labours manifesto, magically grown a money tree overnight, and turned all his tories into socialists "behind the black door."
Any naïve idiot might believe him. Most of us will not.

TokyoSushi · 24/07/2019 17:08

Actually, are they resigning of their own accord or is BJ telling them they're out now?

ListeningQuietly · 24/07/2019 17:08

How would us "getting behind Boris" change the facts of Brexit ?

  • Irish Border
  • Single Market
  • UK demographics
  • trade deals with folks like Trump and Modi and Bolsanaro
LouiseCollins28 · 24/07/2019 17:09

Fox has gone? Didn't expect that one I have to say. Oooh shots fired!

borntobequiet · 24/07/2019 17:10

An ERG Cabinet? God help us.

Iambuffy · 24/07/2019 17:11

Completely horrified pmk

DGRossetti · 24/07/2019 17:12

why not get behind our new government

Make me.

Cherrypi · 24/07/2019 17:13

Grayling out. Some good news.

DGRossetti · 24/07/2019 17:13

Actually, are they resigning of their own accord or is BJ telling them they're out now?

I believe there is a tradition that all ministers tender their resignation and it's up to the incoming PM to accept or not. There is the fiction that they are appointed by the Queen.

dreichhighlands · 24/07/2019 17:13

hester I see no advantages to flinging myself gaily out of an airplane without a parachute.
It is not moaning to point out logical facts, issues like the NI border won't actually just go away if we all stop looking at the map.
If it all goes pear shaped the sad thing this that everyone won't be equally impacted.
I agree that the can kicking will have to stop but arguing for sensible responses to the situation is simply the adult thing to do so I personally won't stop.

Iambuffy · 24/07/2019 17:14

I flipped him the finger during that "speech".

Utter, utter drivel.

I also shouted, more than once, "where is the money coming from motherfucker!?"

tobee · 24/07/2019 17:14

Also, not really sure a few people on Mumsnet are "a weight holding it back". Surely it must be very flimsy if so? Confused

TokyoSushi · 24/07/2019 17:14

Yes @Cherrypi - definitely!

Do we think the truly awful people like Rees-Mogg, Baker & Francois are getting jobs?

horseshit · 24/07/2019 17:15

Sam Coates Sky @ SamCoatesSky

Chris Grayling out of government at his request I’m told

Cherrypi · 24/07/2019 17:15

Must be.

tobee · 24/07/2019 17:15

Yes I dare say Tokyo. I'm sure they'll be more than capable, making decisions and doing stuff

Butterymuffin · 24/07/2019 17:16

If It ends up shit we will all be in together

But we won't, at all. Johnson,Rees Mogg and the other rich Leavers will do very nicely. Poor folk will be even worse off. Hardly all in it together.

tobee · 24/07/2019 17:17

Chris Grayling out by his request you say. But did he mean to ask? Will he find the door?

Butterymuffin · 24/07/2019 17:18

I don't think Rees Mogg wants a cabinet job. It's much easier to snipe from the side lines than to graft to get anything done. As Johnson is about to find out.

AutumnCrow · 24/07/2019 17:18

Bots who don't know how apostrophes work are not terribly persuasive, @HesterNumber. HTH.