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All threads in brexit seem to anti brexit? Mn is usually balanced... Were are pro b threads?

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Knittedjimmychoos · 13/07/2019 23:59

Looking for some lighter brexit relief by fellow leavers... Every thread I've glanced at seems to be dominated by renainers?

Is there any space for leaver on here?

Just interested... I wanted to chat...

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1tisILeClerc · 19/07/2019 21:16

HateIsNotGood
I do indeed speak IRL with people from around the world and as a result I do not comment on grammar or spelling.
It is however reasonable to expect that people like Mummmy should make at least a small effort to find some evidence and present it on a public board, particularly since the majority of the problems that the UK is about to face is due to lies being told. The fact that senior politicians, indeed the prospective new PM has published interviews and statements in the past that he is now totally contradicting with no hint of apology or explanation is more than a bit worrying.
The fact that all the world leaders that he and the cabinet will be meeting in future have full transcripts of the many often contradictory things he has said while as Foreign Secretary will not lead to much trust.
I am just a 'random' on a chat board and being banned would probably enhance my life, however if something of what I have said improves someone else's life, perhaps by getting them to look at things a bit differently, then that is fine by me.

pointythings · 19/07/2019 21:16

I would love it if you were right, mummmy. I would love it if Brexit did turn out to be the land of milk and honey that you are hoping for.

I would also hope that you and people like you, who actively promote No Deal, come right out and admit that you were wrong if it all goes to hell in a handcart, and take full responsibility for the consequences of your vote. Somehow I doubt that you will come on here in ten years' time and admit anything of the sort - you'll blame Remainers for not believing.

jasjas1973 · 19/07/2019 21:16

Dapplegrey

Yet again you fail to read either the full or my subsequent post, in which i clearly stated i haven't seen it myself and i would 'nt be re reading the previous posts (i havn't the inclination...) unlike your good self, further that if Hates is correct, then it is out of order........
however just skimmed the last 3 pages... Mummy has retaliated or started it? not the complete innocent.

Also has played the gallery with what looks very much like deliberately posting more badly written posts, trying to be too clever perhaps?

.... its a rough old world out there!

HateIsNotGood · 19/07/2019 21:19

Welcome back mummy! I'm not defending you btw as I know you don't need it - and you are quite right, many here just want to "smash" anything good that might come out of it. And your honesty is truly refreshing.

frumpety · 19/07/2019 21:20

Imagine what it would be like if Brexit didn't happen, if it was cancelled for the time being with a caveat that if the EU suddenly did some mad random stuff that would harm the UK and its 60 odd million citizens, we would automatically get another vote. How does that sound ? Sensible ? Traitorous ? a bit boring ?

I kind of admire the extremism of Mummy's dialogue, imagine being that sure of a bunch of other human beings integrity, to be so sure you will get exactly what you voted for, regardless of the evidence to the contrary. You really need to believe don't you ?

Bearbehind · 19/07/2019 21:21

dapple I CBA to do an advanced search on you but I do wonder if you ever contribute anything more to threads than to moan and bitch about other posters.

I’ve literally never known you to contribute to the actual discussion.

You’re just a self appointed Brexit thread policeman.

1tisILeClerc · 19/07/2019 21:23

{I just don't see how we can plan, when so much is unknown.}

This is not true. There are thousands of civil servants whose job it is to collectively know everything there is about the UK and in fact details of all countries around the world.
What IS wrong is that their work and projections of what is likely to happen has been dismissed as 'project fear' since before the referendum in 2016. Even now civil servants who know the details are leaving because they are very aware of what is likely to happen or are being removed as they are not 'Brexity' enough (jumping or pushed).

Dapplegrey · 19/07/2019 21:26

You’re just a self appointed Brexit thread policeman.

Bear you accusing someone else of being a Brexit thread policeman is the goat calling the sheep hairy arse.

DustyDiamond · 19/07/2019 21:28

It is however reasonable to expect that people like Mummmy should make at least a small effort to find some evidence and present it on a public board

No it's not 'reasonable to expect' any such thing.

What is 'reasonable to expect' is that posters are not abusive toward other posters just because they disagree with them or have different views.

mummmy2017 · 19/07/2019 21:28

DD made a smoothy, used her finger to wipe the blade...
7 hours in A and E no charger and look CK she still has her finger tip....
I think the reason I keep posting is because I have never met a group of posters who are looking something in the face that has been as clear as water to poor naive me for 3 years...
I have not changed my views from the very start, ask Bear....

Bearbehind · 19/07/2019 21:29

Bear you accusing someone else of being a Brexit thread policeman is the goat calling the sheep hairy arse.

Not really. I do contribute to discussions - you literally never do.

Bearbehind · 19/07/2019 21:32

No it's not 'reasonable to expect' any such thing.

Surely the whole point of any discussion thread is for people to pose their POV and then respond to challenges.

It’s more than a little pointless to post your views then make no attempt to defend or justify them, other than to say ‘it’ll be fine’

HateIsNotGood · 19/07/2019 21:34

No one is trying to get you "banned" clerc - with all your 'travels' you must realize that people see things and articulate things differently. And also how similar people are too. You are just protecting what you see as 'yours' and your family just as people wherever they are do - you're only human and that's what humans do - just like mummy.

You made your 'home' not in the UK, so obviously there were things you don't like here, and were in a position to do something about it, which is fine. Not so fine is putting the boot into the UK and all who live there from your 'perch' elsewhere. How did things like childcare work out for you when you were travelling/working, did your DW have to sacrifice her own career? These are the sorts of things that concern a lot MNetters - the things you find "too depressing", for example.

And yes, mummy has kicked back every so often, when she's been holding her corner with at least a 10:1 ratio against her - and has really kept the personal insults to a minimum. Isn't that the type of person that the world needs more of.

Bearbehind · 19/07/2019 21:36

I have not changed my views from the very start, ask Bear....

That’s really nothing to be proud of.

Looking at the information and making a judgement based on new information is one thing.

Rigidly sticking with your option, despite have no clue about the repercussions is quite another

Bearbehind · 19/07/2019 21:37

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jasjas1973 · 19/07/2019 21:37

To be honest, the whole Project fear thing is a self inflicted injury by remainers, their dire predictions were so bad that when they didn't happen, they laid any future predictions to be held up to ridicule and scorn.

Its gift to many leavers but what people need to realise is a recession is just a short period of negative growth - its not much really but has awful consequences for industries affected,

For me, people like Osbourne tried to scare people into voting remain instead of extolling the positives of membership.

1tisILeClerc · 19/07/2019 21:38

Don't forget, 'Leavers won, get over it'.
They have no clue what they have won, and I can almost guarantee that 17.4 million, minus 1, will be unhappy with it when it is delivered.

derxa · 19/07/2019 21:38

What is 'reasonable to expect' is that posters are not abusive toward other posters just because they disagree with them or have different views. That's the least we should expect.

1tisILeClerc · 19/07/2019 21:44

I was a SAHP and worked PT for the relevant years.

Dapplegrey · 19/07/2019 21:44

And whilst I don’t wish harm to your DD, I can’t help being unsurprised that her injury was due to a lack of common sense.

In what way, Bear, is this a useful contribution to this discussion - since you feel so strongly about people contributing to threads?
It serves no purpose at all, it’s just an opportunity for you to be unpleasant.

jasjas1973 · 19/07/2019 21:44

For a simple hand cut, i'd be going to a minor injuries unit, they can stitch fingers etc and usually don't have the delays AE have.

Obviously if the end of your finger tip has rolled under the fridge, get to AE.

Hope she feels better v soon, i always found the nerve throbbing follow a cut worse than the cut itself.

Bearbehind · 19/07/2019 21:46

dapple, there you go again, thread police.

It’s about people thinking through the consequences of their actions.

frumpety · 19/07/2019 21:51

If we all ignored Brexit for a moment and wrote a list of the things that we all thought needed addressing in the UK by our elected representatives, I imagine that we might all have very similar things in our top 5's.
What worries me is that those elected representatives have been given a carte blanche to ignore these things because of the financial impact of Brexit for at least the next 10-15 years.

SleightOfMind · 19/07/2019 21:51

I work at a sharpish (not sharpest but quite pointed) end of Brexit. We have to stay neutral for work but are more aware than most of the impact of leaving.
Ref voting was about 30%Leave/60%R. 10, in-decided.
Now it’s 99.999... Remain.
There are just no good arguments for Brexit in its current form, with the resources we have at hand.
In five years time, having planned a route and a destination, it could be a workable prospect.
Right now it’s on the spectrum of self harm to suicide.

ContinuityError · 19/07/2019 21:53

Bearbehind - that’s particularly unkind, especially about a child.

mummmy hope your DD is OK.