What are the real tangible benefits of the UK leaving the EU ?

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I assume there must be at least a couple, things that can be said with certainty, that will improve the lives of UK citizens. I am not talking about the 'feelings' stuff like sovereignty, I mean if the UK leaves the EU , X will happen and this will automatically improve the lives of the majority of the people in the UK. There has to be at least one ?

I have simply stated what I believe is right.

Yes but everything you’ve stated has been proved wrong countless times yet you still carrying on saying it.

Can you name any EU law or regulation that you have been directly affected by and that will change once we leave?

Bear, why do you keep asking me this?
I have answered you many times that it is a matter of principle.
Please read the above sentence and don't keep asking.

Nothing I have said has been proved wrong. I stated below, or perhaps on a similar thread that there are definite tangible benefits. I stated 4.

You think everyone is going to starve, die from lack of medical care, or become impoverished.

Seeing as we are still in the EU how can all this rubbish be proved.
You are scaremongering.

No, you’ve always maintained that being regulated by the ECJ is a matter of principle.

Above you’ve specially said I have, of course been affected, as have we all, be EU laws and regulations. yet you can’t name a single one (except probably banana, light bulbs and vacuum cleaners)

Everything you’ve said has been proven wrong - not least your Pitcairn Island and French Polynesia gem from yesterday.

Proving things to be wrong and changing your fundamentalist position - not the same thing.

You think everyone is going to starve, die from lack of medical care, or become impoverished

No I don’t.

I think every one of the 4 things you listed yesterday has consequences which far outweigh any perceived benefits and you can’t argue differently.

If you really can’t see the most obvious one which is that losing more than 0.7% of GDP through not having frictionless trade means that it doesn’t matter if the government has full control over how it’s spent as there is less to spend anyway, then it’s simply because your prejudice against anything ‘foreign’ is greater than your ability to think rationally.

{then it’s simply because your prejudice against anything ‘foreign’ is greater than your ability to think rationally.}

Makes you wonder how anyone can get a masters degree without having to think logically.

I stated below, or perhaps on a similar thread that there are definite tangible benefits. I stated 4.

Only one of them stood up to even cursory scrutiny, and that wasn't a tangible benefit but an ideological one ("sovereignty").

You do know how to make a reasoned argument with supporting evidence, otherwise you would not (I hope) have a master's degree. So why don't you do that on here?

The trouble with you lot is that you think everything is down to money.
It is not.
It is important to me that we stop paying 0.7 % of our GDP to the EU.

Whether or not this leads to a reduction in trade, a reduction in the amount the UK government then has to spend, or anything else are all separate points as far as I am concerned.

My objection is on a matter of principle. Perhaps money is more important to you than principles, but principles matter to me.

Misti, I never mentioned sovereignty.

{The trouble with you lot is that you think everything is down to money.
It is not.
It is important to me that we stop paying 0.7 % of our GDP to the EU. }

Foot shooting irony here!

Was you masters degree in 'Baiting'?

My objection is on a matter of principle. Perhaps money is more important to you than principles, but principles matter to me

I will second, third, fourth and fifth that statement.

{I will second, third, fourth and fifth that statement.}

Says the one who couldn't be arsed to vote.

copper It’s easy for people to have principles if they won’t be affected by any adverse impact of those principles.

The fact you hold those principles more highly than any damage that may be caused to others makes you exactly the kind of person I’m thoroughly disgusted with in all this.

copper I never mentioned sovereignity

Except on this very thread where you said

The "feeling" of being free and "taking back control of our destiny", or "sovereignty " is of over riding importance to some people. Maybe not to you.

This is soul destroying

I will second, third, fourth and fifth that statement.

ODFO life

You don’t even fucking live here and I suspect you didn’t vote because you weren’t eligible

Who said anything about voting. I agree with the posters statement that principles take priority over money.

Says anyone who is comfortably off or who thinks they can rely on someone else picking up the tab.

Who said anything about voting. I agree with the posters statement that principles take priority over money.

Says the GF immigrant chasing tax free salaries. Now where was it again - KSA, Oman, UAE?

Ah one of those! Taxes are for the little people.

Bear, you are right. I did mention sovereignty. I had forgotten.

Wait a minute Bear,
Misti doesn't live here neither does LeClerc but you don't tell them to fuck off

Seem to remember Misti was looking to buy or has already bought a house in France? Or was that someone else.

So LeClec is not in UK as well?