Westminstenders: Johnson v Stewart

[RedToothBrush]

Debate time.

Where the hell did they get these questioners?!

I only ever lurk on these threads, but bloody hell Louise, the questioners were the only decent people there!

Agreed blibblibs.

An hour of that debate and then the last episode of Years and Years straight after.
It’s all too much for me!

@borntobequiet thank you!

Half way through. Not impressed with Boris Johnson so far but that might be just his blustery style.

Michael Gove has been a bit hit and miss. Rory Stewart sounds like a defeatist so far from my POV.

As David Allen Green would say, well ...

Thank you RedToothBrush, first smile on a grim night.

One of my later PMKs. Thank you RTB.

OMG - go out to my niece's graduation celebration meal and come back to 308 posts already on the new thread!

These two were very definitely taking their place and stopping me getting up at the weekend

Now need to go back and find out how the debate went.

Oh great and now we have a “climate striker” questioner as I said, where did the Beeb find these vacous morons.

Genuinely don't understand how anyone could watch that shit show and think it was the questioners who were the vacuous morons.

Because they might as well have been hand picked from central casting, it’s so bloody predictable it’s unbeleivelable.

In that poll in which Tory members would sacrifice the economy, Uk and their own party to get Brexit,
the one sacrfice they wouldn't make is JC as PM ....

Kevin Maguiree@Kevin*_Maguire

That cheering in the background is Jeremy Corbyn and Nigel Farage, unable to believe their luck as they watch the Tory infamous five squabbling
#BBCDebate

The questions which concern the public are well-known
Climate change is one bi concern, even if you pesonally don't share it

Shoul they have invited oddballs to throw oddball questions?

After Sajid Javid (soŕry mumsnet app freezing on my phone).

Fewer than 150,000 tory members are about to choose our next PM and Brexit negotiators from this pile of Etonian idiots.

I feel properly cross

Oh crap my whole post disappeared.
Again this
We are all disappearing down a Tory/brexit whirlpool that is not of our making and not even popular any more.
We must march on parliament in even greater numbers (in peace)

Rory didn’t do so well this time. He made the entirely reasonable point that everything comes back to Brexit but everyone else continued to ignore reality. His frustration came across unfortunately

No, they should have got the presenter or a panel of guest presenters to ask the questions IMO, as happens in most US Presidential debates.

Essentially what I want to know on the issue, is “what are you going to do”, “by when is it going to happen” and “how will your plan be paid for”

For me, “student activist asks about climate change”; “Brexit party deserter asks about Brexit”, “foster carer asks ‘wont somebody please think of the children?’” is just sooo obvious it’s untrue.

Agree RHTawney. For alll that people have been raving about him I thought Rory Stewart was a real dissapointment. Talks a fair amount of sense but his manner is so unconvincing. Boris I thought was waffling and very poor. Sajid Javid, again a dissapointment, didn’t really seem to make an impact, for me.

That leaves Jeremy Hunt and Michael Gove. I thought Gove probably had the best line of the night, essentially “I’ve started it so I’ll finish it” but across all the issues discused taken together I thought Hunt was the more impressive. I didn’t like his “i’m married to an immigrant , his worst answer by far.

Yes. Wish someone had asked:
Why is the air I breathe so toxic
Why am I going to die younger than my parents
How can I ensure this won't happen to my children?

Pmk. Away on hols in Canada. Not sure why I’m checking in, it’s blissful here.

"Erin Go Bragh!"

If the questions were oh so predictable it doesn't say much about the calibre of most of the candidates or their teams that they made such a dog's dinner of answering them, does it?

Hunt scares me most of the five of them.

Gove's Baldrick- esque references to his cunning plan(s) probably made him sound the most electable. He and Javid were pretty much themselves, Johnson was doing his boring schtick (one of his usual tactics), Hunt's admission that his cuts went too far will haunt him.Stewart was the most honest in his critiques but had nothing on any solutions. And he's The fidgety one in this weird boy band.
I was daring one of them to say Border in The Sea/NI is to be a Special Economic Area, which is my solution to this mess (apart from Revoke), but 'twasn't to be.