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Westministenders: Hustings and Humilation

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RedToothBrush · 13/06/2019 22:16

Round 1 has passed.
Boris is winning. But these are the Tories. Surprises might yet happen.

But the chances are the lying buffon is full speed ahead to be the next PM. As long as he manages to keep his mouth shut.

Unfortunately being Prime Minister involves talking. This might prove to be something that bursts the BorisMania rather rapidly.

A GE is still very much on the cards.

And we might face the Constitutional and undemocratic shutting down of parliament to satisfy the Tory Faithless.

Meanwhile the EU couldn't give less shits. They just think we are wasting the time we were granted in good faith.

31st October beckons with No Deal.

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ElenadeClermont · 18/06/2019 14:09

JRM would not want even greater scrutiny of his investments.

howabout · 18/06/2019 14:28

Moggmentum are very upset with JRM not flinging his Top in the ring and even flirted with defecting to Annunziata. They are however backing Boris.

My suspicion is that JRM likes being an MP but is not politically ambitious. Many say the same about JC and accuse him of not wanting to be PM. However it is worth noting how much both of them have influenced politics while not being in Government.

pretty tell your DS I don't think Revoke would make any difference to people's Yes/No position but I am curious to know how he sees Scotland in Europe post Indy (currency etc) and what his projected timescales are?

DGRossetti · 18/06/2019 14:35

My suspicion is that JRM likes being an MP but is not politically ambitious.

Ironically, I think the same could be said of Boris Hmm He's hardly acted like he's burning with passion for the job. In fact it's probably closer to the truth to say he just feels it's his by right of him being Boris.

I can't see him being a particularly hard working PM - much like he hardly seemed to break sweat as Foreign Secretary or Mayor of London. Which seems to be a more ingrained trait the higher up the pecking order you go.

tobee · 18/06/2019 14:41

Tbf to Mogg (🤢🤮) I would probably rather carp from the sidelines than do the actual work. Blush

DGRossetti · 18/06/2019 14:45

I would also wager that JRM sees PM as being beneath him anyway. Bit too close to having a real job.

tobee · 18/06/2019 14:46

Listening to the Brexitcast from just after the first round, they were saying that Boris was a bad foreign Secretary because he was sulking at not getting the ministerial job to actually do Brexit! HmmThat he really is burningly keen to be pm so will be dedicated to doing a great job. Again HmmHmmHmm Which just makes him even more of a cunt in my book.

BigChocFrenzy · 18/06/2019 14:47

pretty Your DS is probably right - and a tough cookie !

BigChocFrenzy · 18/06/2019 14:50

Boris will be another Bullingdon Boy PM:

trash the place and run away

BigChocFrenzy · 18/06/2019 14:52

Some ERG MPs - like Faragists - are only there to further their financial interests, while enjoying the status

Or, like Boris, to play at being in charge for a while, to increase their fees later for speeches and articles

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2019 14:54

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7145473/Jeremy-Hunts-wife-Lucia-reveals-pet-Mr-Big-Rice.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top
Jeremy Hunt's wife Lucia reveals her pet name for him is 'Mr Big Rice' as he dubs himself the 'insurgent' Tory leadership candidate after Boris storms ahead

Lucia Hunt giggles as she explains why 'Big Rice' can become Prime Minister
She let slip her pet name for foreign secretary Jeremy Hunt during interview
'He is kind, he is always generous, he cares about his family,' Lucia says 

vomit

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DGRossetti · 18/06/2019 14:55

Sorry, but looking back at Boris' career - as is - I really can't see evidence that he carries the furnace of ambition normally seen in someone who wants to advance to Prime Minister. He just thinks that by rights a posh boy should be PM and he's a posh boy, so it should be a shoe-in.

Corbyn also seems a bit dim on the burning ambition front.

To be fair Javid does have that about him, I think.

That's not to say the burning desire is automatically a good thing. If anything it should be a warning.

The one upside about a Boris Premiership is he would probably leave a lot of finer points to his aides - we know he's hardly about the details.

prettybird · 18/06/2019 14:57

Howabout - his projected (or rather, aspirational Wink) timescales are within a few years - but that's because he has some specific personal ambitions that are related to an independent Scotland Grin

I haven't discussed currency with him in detail. At the moment he has a real downer on macroeconomics after an atrocious lecturer last semester ( 280 resits: c50% of the class Shock) and he's just grateful he scraped a pass (especially as he hadn't done Economics before as even those with Economics Highers or A Levels didn't understand what the lecturer was saying Confused) and never has to to Economics again Wink (As it happens, he'd been surprised to enjoy Microeconomics in the 1st Semester, thanks to a good lecturer and tellingly it only has c.26 resits Hmm).

He's planning on getting involved with Young Scots for Independence but not specifically with the SNP (although he aligns with them in the Uni Politics Society).

tobee · 18/06/2019 14:57

Not enough to remember your nationality, eh Lucia?

DGRossetti · 18/06/2019 14:58

Jeremy Hunt's wife Lucia reveals her pet name for him is 'Mr Big Rice'

Given how hard it can be for oriental tongues to master the rhotic "r" it makes more sense the way I hear it in my head. Shame on me ....

(recalls a very un-PC story Jasper Carrot wrote in one of his books ...)

prettybird · 18/06/2019 15:00

....but I will admit it can be wearing trying to debate with an 18 year old PIR student who thinks he knows it all GrinHmm

tobee · 18/06/2019 15:02

Surely, surely with Boris the underwhelming nature of his burning ambition is down to all the stars aligning for him to get to be pm, and yet Brexit?

TatianaLarina · 18/06/2019 15:03

Horrified to read Stella Creasy’s predicament.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/18/senior-tories-rally-in-support-of-pregnant-stella-creasy

Creasy said the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (Ipsa) had told expectant mothers it did not recognise any form of maternity leave and would not automatically provide extra support for constituency work after she gives birth....

Creasy said she had approached Ipsa about funding for cover but was told it “does not ‘recognise’ that MPs go on maternity leave”....

“Humiliatingly, it is making me beg for extra staff funding – or give up any chance of spending time with my child to make sure my constituents don’t miss out,” she writes. “If a GP or vicar were on leave, a locum would be provided to ensure continuity of services. In Denmark, a member of the national parliament would have a substitute MP....

Siddiq, the MP for Hampstead and Kilburn, told the Guardian she had been refused extra help with her first pregnancy, a year after she arrived in parliament in 2015. Having given birth to her second child four months ago, she said she had not even bothered to make the application.

“That is because of the negative reaction I had first time around. They were utterly baffled I was even having a baby, I was passed around and I was told ‘we have not got a historic policy on that because we have not had many women in parliament who give birth’,” she said.

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2019 15:05

The one upside about a Boris Premiership is he would probably leave a lot of finer points to his aides - we know he's hardly about the details.

And who might they be.

There is already rumours there will be a civil service 'purge' under Johnson to keep the nutters happy.

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LouiseCollins28 · 18/06/2019 15:05

So Westministenders can't stand Boris Johnson, or Gove, or Hunt or Javid or Raab or most of you Stewart. Well that was informative.

'He is kind, he is always generous, he cares about his family,' Lucia says

Not sure why the above is vomit inducing?
would you rather he were selfish, miserly and uncaring?!

LouiseCollins28 · 18/06/2019 15:07

"Locum" MPs, FFS I have heard it all now! Angry

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2019 15:08

Just a point, but if thats the case, why have the Labour Party never had an internal policy to assist their female MPs with extra staff funding for maternity leave?

Its not just parliament thats failed to help MPs its parties.

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RedToothBrush · 18/06/2019 15:09

Why does Lucia do an interview at all?

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DGRossetti · 18/06/2019 15:16

Why does Lucia do an interview at all?

Because it seems Theresa May has redefined "Prime Minister" with a "+ 1" ?

Another symptom of some in the UK trying to ape the States and have a "first lady" of the UK. Or "first man" in Phillip Mays case.

prettybird · 18/06/2019 15:16

And why not? Confused

If you actually listen to what Stella Creasy is saying (watched her on Sky News earlier), she is complaining that IPSA doesn't recognise that MPs do work outside of Parliament Sad The ability to proxy vote has been taken care of - but an MP's job is more than just voting in Parliament Confused

Their support staff don't do it all Shock

So it's about getting cover for that work that she is fighting for.

So rather than being Angry at the idea of locum MPs Confused, I am AngryAngry that she has to plead with IPSA, who have told her that she must provide evidence that the work that she does outside of Parliament has any effect and worth ShockAngry

tobee · 18/06/2019 15:18

Here here pretty

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