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Westminstenders: A fully functioning government?

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RedToothBrush · 10/05/2019 23:50

It's been a month since parliament voting on anything.

The staggering reality of May's premiership is that government has ceased to function. We are stuck not just on Brexit but every other issue, such is the weakness of May's authority.

It begs the question of how long this is tolerable by all sides of the Conservative Civil War?

May being unable to bring anything forward means no deal is probably as inevitable as if a hardliner was PM.

There was talk of May / Corbyn reaching a fudge to get a deal via the backdoor WAB (Withdrawal Agreement Implimentation Bill) as it was politically impossible for them to be seen doing a deal any other way. However news today is that despite pressure from the 1922 Committee to bring it forward, May has slapped just a one line whip on it, meaning it will go precisely no where.

The polling for the European elections is perhaps more favourable to Labour than they might have feared after last weeks local election disaster so the mutual interest for Corbyn to move forward in anyway has already gone. Seeing the Tories be humiliated at the ballot box is too much of a temptation.

The phrase about Shit Creek only gets more apt.

All that is happening is every member of the Tory Party is lining up to take part in a leadership contest. It's harder to think of a Tory who isn't considering standing. It's not just the likes of Johnson, Gove, Rudd and Hunt. It's also the likes of Johnny Mercer and Graham Brady queuing not so patiently.

And its getting harder to argue that May is better as PM than the possibility of a right right candidate, because of the paralysis. Though as Rudd rightly points out, such a PM who wanted to actively have no deal as a policy, would struggle to win a majority in the HoC for that all important Queens Speech vote - every bit as much as May. Unless they were to somehow decide they could abuse the power of the executive and ignore parliament - a feat May has repeatedly attempted but ultimately failed at.

All everything feels, is a massive sense of merely delaying the inevitable.

Remain? Hard to see how under any Tory. A Deal? Hard to see what it might be and how there will be a Parliamentary majority. A PV? Well that still has to get through parliament and needs to be arranged smartish. And might not resolve the Irish border issue if the vote goes 'the wrong way' A General Election? That still seems to be a distinct possibility. But with the seeming resurrection of the LDs that's one the Tories will be desperate to avoid. Not that Corbyn is likely to succeed either. And of course there is now the Spectre of the Turquoise Arrows lurking. The crushing of the purple pound notes feels a hollow and distinct success.

It feels like we are waiting for the political sky to fall in in some sort of never ending Brexit Purgotory.

The cataclysmic event will occur at some point. It has to. But for now, it feels that there is nothing but waiting and waiting to be done.

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dreichuplands · 10/05/2019 23:58

It really is depressing.

dreichuplands · 10/05/2019 23:59

Thanks though red

BigChocFrenzy · 11/05/2019 00:02

Thanks, red 💐

Westministenders Abbreviations:

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eureferendumm2016/3492426-Westministenders-Abbreviation?msgid=84503730

BigChocFrenzy · 11/05/2019 00:03

BBC Sounds@BBCSounds 😂😂

@CorneliusRacing gives his racing commentary on
the Tory Leadership Steeplechase. 🐴

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCSounds/status/1126773269980270592

BigChocFrenzy · 11/05/2019 00:05

Nicholas Watt@nicholaswatt

Exc:
Liam Fox to raise concerns in cabinet after Tory party fails to highlight ‘totemic’ benefits of independent trade policy < 😂 > in European election leaflet.
Follows Sam Coates scoop in the Times

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2019 00:13

Pippa Crerar@pippacrerar
I heard that Brady told a bemused Tory MP a couple of weeks ago that he thought he was the only person who could unite the party 🤨

Oh OK.
I thought it was just Jesus who performed miracles, but here's Graham who believes he can also do them. I suppose there are lots of believers in the Tory Party.

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mathanxiety · 11/05/2019 00:18

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-party-donor-switches-nigel-15035074

Rats sink ship.

Jeremy Hosking of Marathon Asset Management, a big Tory donor who gave money to push forward Tory pro-Brexit candidates at the last GE, now backing the Brexit Party to a significant tune.

"What was it that first attracted you to the prospect of an economic meltdown and the fire sale that must accompany that, Mr Hosking?"

LonelyTiredandLow · 11/05/2019 00:46

Deliberate thumbed nose to remainers by state broadcaster with Browns Boys in place of HIGNFY. Annoyingly they took my TV licence funds today. Private Eye should be interesting though...

Am honestly suspecting both Tories and Labour are deliberately doing nothing so that they don't win any future elections and can pass the steaming pile on to whoever does. Hard to think of a single achievement of the current govt, other than making us into a global laughing stock.

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/05/2019 01:18

Thanks Red

CrunchyCarrot · 11/05/2019 05:23

Thanks Red

I am missing "DIVISION!! Clear the lobbies!!" Grin

I keep hearing Tusk's voice... "Do not waste this time..." Yet that is precisely what's happening.

After watching Brexit: Behind Closed Doors, I don't think the EU will give the UK even more time unless there is something substantial in the offing i.e. GE, PV. Otherwise the cliff edge is drawing nearer again whilst everyone's arguing.

It is depressing and unbelievable it's come to this. Sad

borntobequiet · 11/05/2019 05:37

Almost the only thing left that is admirable about TM is her refusal to do anything the 1922 Committee want her to.
Thanks Red, good morning all. Went to bed early last night thinking I’d watch HIGNFY on catch up, oh well. OTOH not sure how well Heidi would have coped, Hislop can pull a politician apart faster than most political interviewers, and she’s not that quick on her feet. CUK should kick up a righteous fuss and get some traction out of it.

Flowerplower · 11/05/2019 06:05

Pmk thanks Red.

bellinisurge · 11/05/2019 06:49

I hope Hislop has fun with this in Private Eye.
I watched QT for the first time in ages. Apart from Faridge the guests were all interesting to listen to for their different reasons. But it was just another Faridge wank session. I thought that was the ancient history not the Breaking Point poster.

Iambuffy · 11/05/2019 06:57

Pmk

MissMalice · 11/05/2019 07:03

PMK

IrenetheQuaint · 11/05/2019 07:10
Gin
Runningintothesunset · 11/05/2019 07:16

The Remainiacs podcast had a Donald Tusk romantic fiction creative writing competition and this week it’s a Mark Francois war hero bro challenge. I thought of you all Grin

borntobequiet · 11/05/2019 07:22

I take back what I said about Heidi Allen, she made a good joke about Farage always being on the BBC.

TheCaddyisaBaddie · 11/05/2019 07:26

Pmk

LonelyTiredandLow · 11/05/2019 07:28

Am I loosing my marbles? I have iplayer open to watch Brexit Behind Closed Doors and it's not coming up under search at all? Hmm

Pulled? or am I being special?

DGRossetti · 11/05/2019 07:29

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LonelyTiredandLow · 11/05/2019 07:30

I can however watch JRM talking on The Brexit Lectures or watch Farage and the BP campaign launch if I search Brexit Hmm talk about bias

LonelyTiredandLow · 11/05/2019 07:32

OK Blush
I had to search Storyville - special and no coffee

lonelyplanetmum · 11/05/2019 07:33

I haven't done a Lewis Carroll poem mark King for a while so here's one.

"The time has come ," the Walrus said, “To talk of many things:
Of voting stats and Labour pacts
Of Faragits — and things
And presumptive and apparent heirs — And whether pigs have wings.”
“But wait a bit," the Oysters cried, “Before we have our chat; For some of us are out of breath, and all of us ...have cats!”

magimedi · 11/05/2019 07:47

Pmk - thanks, Red.

Love the poem, lonely.