Who you voting for next Election?

[Dolly2007]

I'm going to vote for an MP that supports Brexit and leaving the customs union and single market. What about the rest of you?

A remain party.

Voted labour last time. Wont do again. Completely ambiguous party and they enable people like lily whatserface.

Priorities

1. Revoke
2. Respect adult human female rights
3. Local green issue (won't describe for fear of outing -NW England)

Gonna struggle to find anyone, aren't I?

Labour, they’re the only party that could even get close to ousting the very sage Tory twat.

@PaddyF0dder what about SNP record on education? Atrocious isn't it?

@TitsalinaBumSquash revoke and not hold another referendum? Sound a bit like a dictatorship to me.

@PestyMachtubernahme it was talked about on sky news a few weeks back. This is Nigel Farage tactic should we have a second referendum. Don't have the link but research electoral commission.

Meh, call it what you want. We shouldn't have been given a referendum, too many people don't know anything about what they are or aren't voting for. We elect a government to make these decisions for us.

I agree. That’s certainly a clear weakness.

No oarty is perfect. As a parent in Scotland I worry about education for my kids. As a professional who works within the system I worry about it professionally.

No party is without faults. But the SNP are anti-Brexit. Environmentally conscious. Anti-nukes. The Scottish NHS functions better than others. They do enough things well that I feel they balance out as better than the alternatives.

It helps that I want to leave the UK and rejoin the EU.

Ds has just gone through the Scottish education system. Inner city, state schools (both primary and secondary), mixed demographic but including a large deprived with a high SIMD (quite apart from the 55 language spoken, the impact of which aren't included when calculating the SIMD ). No extra tutoring. Not even supervision of his homework. (No culture of either at his old school). Now at a good Uni, studying what he wanted to study (for which he got an unconditional offer).

I think he has had a brilliant education and I have no complaints . It taught him to think for himself - which has stood him in good stead for Uni studying

Next?

Whoever I need to attempt to unseat hardcore ERG MP. Unless something changes that's Lib Dem. It was Lib Dem pre 2015 so may go back.

If I vote and I don't like the outcome, can I claim that the public were misinformed and insist that the vote is re-run a year or two later?

If the electoral commission finds that there was illegal activity in an election or a referendum with statutory status, the result can indeed be declared nul and void and the election re-run.

Unfortunately, in an advisory referendum, the electoral commission is powerless

@dolly2007, you do realise education is devolved? Voting SNP or not in a general election has no bearing on education in Scotland at all. Only the Scottish Parliament elections do.

If I vote and I don't like the outcome, can I claim that the public were misinformed and insist that the vote is re-run a year or two later?

Every five years, yes. So perhaps we ask the EU for a two year extension of Article 50 and then we can have another referendum.

I think I'd have to spoil my ballot paper or find an independent to support. There's no one I'd actually like to vote for. I'm in a safe Tory seat so it doesn't really matter who I vote for anyway!

SNP despite their dire record on education as they are the only party that actually represents Scotland and fights for Scotland in Westminster, plus represent my remain view.

Then for Scottish Elections anyone but SNP!

The SNP aren't without their failings, but I'll definitely be voting for them mainly as a result of their stance on a Brexit. I won't vote for Labour under Corbyn again and I'll never vote Tory.

Op you'll probably be disappointed but a swing to SNP is already predicted. You may be a leaver but most people in Scotland want to remain and are angry and sick to the back teeth of Brexit.

@EggysMom are you scared of a different result? Surely the will of the people is resolute and Leave would get an even bigger majority. Wouldn't they?

Any party other than Labour whilst idiot Corbyn is their leader. Whichever other party I think is likely to win to keep Labour out.

We shouldn't have been given a referendum, too many people don't know anything about what they are or aren't voting for. We elect a government to make these decisions for us.

Err? So you think the public are too thick to vote for a particular issue, but smart enough to vote for which party to run the country on all issues! That makes no sense.

Not Tory - for taking the country to hell and back by having a referendum due to party politics and personal ambitions, for displaying sheer incompetence (Grayling) and lack of any negotiating skills or diplomacy, for showing increasing tendencies towards the far right.

Not labour - worst opposition ever plus Jeremy Corbyn.

So my choice will be greeen/ Lib Dem possibly independent.

Not a clue.

Our labour incumbent is utterly dreadful and a total non entity. And Jeremy Corbyn.

The LDs are anti science woman haters. I know who is likely to be our local candidate. Nice guy. But after raising subject with him, he's totally not interested. And the LDs who historically have down well locally were wiped out over the last two elections.

The old Tory MP was a decent MP who did more for the area than the current waste of space. But he's no longer the candidate and was relived to get out when he did. The new candidate is a would be careerist. And the party seems to want to be Blukip.

The Greens are just shite. Not that they don't have nice ideas and a point on the climate. It's just that they really don't gave a clue about the world beyond that. Caroline Lucas excepted.

We didn't have a UKIP candidate last time. There was an ex-kipper independent who got pissed off with party before most of the rest of them inc Farage abandoned ship. He's a simply fuckwit.

I've always voted. I'm a swing voter. I will go to vote. What I will put in that box, I genuinely couldn't tell you. That's the first time ever. And if there was an election tomorrow I genuinely don't think I'd know until I was in the polling booth.

I think there are lots of people like me. And for that reason I am particularly weary of polling atm.

Many pollsters discount 'don't knows' in their general regular polling and only trying and work out the don't knows in polling in an election period because its more difficult and expensive to do.

They generally allocate the don't knows based on previous voting patterns and trends. I don't think these are currently predictable. Especially since I might even close my eyes and just swivel my finger a bit and then vote for who I'm pointing to, such is my feeling right now.

But I will 100% vote.

I have never said anyone was thick.

A lot of people have no idea about the EU, not because of how intelligent they are but because they just don't - it's not taught in schools (well not around here anyway) so unless you actively read reliable information to teach yourself you don't know much about it.
People have other stuff going on in life, some people don't have the time, resources or even the want to learn about it.

Dolly I had done some research and found nothing to suggest your statement was true.

More research done
A vote is not valid unless 30% of the electorate votes.
If you live in Denmark, 30% of registered voters have to be on the winning side. Or 40% if it is a constitutional change. Italy requires 50% voter turnout for a referendum to be valid.

For a General Election in the UK there is no participation threshold, as is usual for FPTP systems. Other FPTP counties like USA have no provisions for national referendums.
We even have a system for a situation where nobody votes in a constituency

For UK referendums threshold have only been used in the 1979 Scotland and Wales referendums. An amendment to the Act stipulated that it would be repealed if less than 40% of the total electorate voted "Yes" in the referendum. The result was that 51.6% supported the proposal, but with a turnout of 64%, this represented only 32.9% of the registered electorate. The Act was subsequently repealed.

Had the same rule been applied to the Brexit vote. We would not even be thinking about leaving. 37% < 40%

Nige is spouting shit.

Why not vote for yourselves?
Stand for election, mums netters. As party members or independents.