Leavers, I'm a leaver... are you out there

[BurpsandHustles]

I know this thread will get trolled and spammed with the usual suspects demanding answers from us.

But I'm hoping any leavers out there could ignore them and tell me how their feeling.

Right now I'm wondering who the hell is speaking out for us? It's gone very quiet....

There is some momentum from pro Europe voices... but aside from a damp squib march from farage..does anyone else think it's gone eerily quiet!!

I voted leave along with everyone in my family (three generations). The youngest was our 19 year old and the oldest in his 70s. The only remain voter was our then 21 year old. He also joined the Labour party and thinks JC is a good person to lead the country. I find that somewhat amusing and frightening in equal measure. I'm a life long Labour voter but will never vote for the useless shower of shite that they have become.

Would I vote leave again? Definitely. We were always told the EU wasn't perfect but we could change it from within. It's been 40+ years and they're still wasting millions moving between France and Belgium every few weeks. I really fear a federal Europe and a European army. MEPs are far too distant and we only hear anything from them when they want our votes. It's one long gravy train. At least if we are governed from London we can all have a jolly little march and state our case. Just by chance DS, DDiL and the children were visiting London for the weekend. Like many tourists they got caught up in the parade for a time. DS said it was all very friendly but lots of EU students in the crowd and some American tourists too. Everyone is entitled to an opinion of course but not all of them are entitled to vote. I can't believe there will ever be a re-run of the vote. Mainly because it will give a green light to the SNP. Those in control don't want to leave the EU, but they don't want to risk the break up of the UK either.

None of us wanted the mess we are in but leave voters can't be blamed. Parliament have failed us all........Roll on the next election so we kick ass and out the self serving bastards.

Like many tourists they got caught up in the parade for a time. DS said it was all very friendly but lots of EU students in the crowd and some American tourists too.

What are you really trying to say here? Are you suggesting that most of the country are happy with the way things are going and that there aren't many "real" protestors?

@nagynolonger - just so you know, I voted Remain and hate Corbyn. Just in case you are deluded enough to think all Remain supporters love Corbyn. He's a useless twat.

None of us wanted the mess we are - so you think we are in a mess but hardly any people protested in London anyway, it was mostly tourists.

{None of us wanted the mess we are in but leave voters can't be blamed.}
Well it wasn't the 'vote faeries' that did it.

BTW on saving money: UK economy is already 2.5% smaller than it would have been had Remain won the referendum. Public finances have been dented by £26bn a year, more than half of the defence budget. This translates to a penalty of £500m a week, a figure that is growing.

I think its really shocking that there are Leave voters out there who still think Leaving is going to save us money. It's not, and all the evidence shows its not.

You know, have your reasons for voting Brexit by all means, but if your big reason is wasting millions.... you haven't seen nothing yet.

(saving millions, I mean)

Brexit is going to cost us a fortune. Even your Etonian or Millionaire Brexiteers largely accept that.

I am a leaver but am fed up with the nastiness and sarcasm on here. I have reported a few posts and they have been removed.
I have written to my MP several times about voting because I am in a leave constituency.
I think TM is/has done a good job but the remain MPs are voting selfishly rather than taking notice of the referendum result.

I really fear a federal Europe and a European army.

Project fear, eh.

What are you looking forward to most, Copper Sulphate?

Its not about the money, is it?

where's the counter balance?

The press has for a long time been using terms like 'traitors' and 'enemies of the people' for politicians, judges and members of the public who suggest remaining or softer Brexits. Anna Soubry et al being harangued on their way to and from work. The woman who started the revoke petition receiving death threats. EU figures being called alcoholics etc. My boyfriend had 'Traitors' shouted out of a car window as he walked down the street with his placard on the way to Saturday's march.

There is plenty of pro-Brexit/anti-dissident sentiment out there. And I haven't even started on the BBC and its cockamamie interpretation of 'the need for balance'.

Helmetbymidnight.......Of course I'm not! I certainly didn't say it was mostly tourists. But there were some. It is London. Like I say DS and DDIL (leave voters) were there.

As for JC. He is a leaver and just won't come out and say it. He is a useless twat too.

OP hasn't told us what media she listens/reads/watches.

I guess she only reads The New European or something.

I can't believe there will ever be a re-run of the vote. Mainly because it will give a green light to the SNP. Those in control don't want to leave the EU, but they don't want to risk the break up of the UK either.

You see, I've absolutely taken the Leave stance as a pretty clear indication that the Tory party and the right wing of the UK (plus Corbyn's Lexit mob) have absolutely washed their hands of the Union entirely. The Brexit narrative has given a massive boost to the SNP and provided the Scottish nationalists with a really powerful narrative (proof that rUK doesn't care about us or respect us/proof that our votes mean nothing and will always be overturned by what England wants/proof that Better Together - which made a huge big deal of 'you will be out of the EU' - spouted shite and you can't trust them) that they would not have had otherwise.

I assumed the Tory party just figured they'd not lose that many votes if Scotland went independent/NI rejoined Eire so sod it!

I can't believe there will ever be a re-run of the vote. Mainly because it will give a green light to the SNP.

Scotland 100% deserves another referendum. They have been treated so badly. More people voted to remain in the EU that voted to stay in UK.

Scottish voters were told that the only way
To remain in the EU was to stay in the UK.

They were then thrown under the bus by the Tories in 2015 (story of our life)

Ok, so you just wanted to remind us there are tourists in London, in case anyone was counting them in the protestors.

Thanks.

There were shop and hotel workers and a few police and ambulance workers too.

Project fear? Wasn't that Cameron and Osbourne?

Can you clarify that you do actually think Brexit is going to save this country money?

Thanks

Scotland 100% deserves another referendum. They have been treated so badly. More people voted to remain in the EU that voted to stay in UK

It has been miserable! I campaigned for Better Together and the whole Brexit shambles has made a lie of every single thing I said. I sort of want to go around the areas I campaigned in and apologize to everyone I spoke to.

I hate referendums but I think Scotland does deserve a new one considering how dramatically the promises that were made before the last one have been broken.

forestafantastica

I don’t live in Scotland anymore but I would have voted No 100%.

Now - who knows. Suspect I will support independence even if i don’t get the vote

{I am a leaver but am fed up with the nastiness and sarcasm on here. I have reported a few posts and they have been removed. }

Oh dear.
Maybe if ANY leavers could come up with something like a plan, preferably a good one that will magic up a couple of million new, well paying jobs, make amends for the continual decline of the Northern cities and ensure that all workers receive at least a decent living wage.

Being out of the EU will make this a whole lot more difficult of course as the UK will be losing tariff free access to the markets that actually have the money to but anything the UK makes.
You have a little over 2 weeks to come up with something.

I don't think many Leave voters think Brexit will make the country richer, do they?

I think nagynolonger is on her own as the 'saving money' argument has really been entirely abandoned now the facts have come out.

From what I've seen some many leavers are of the 'fuck the economy, I don't care,' school of thought - while others are still on the 'We're Great Britain, we'll be fine,'. There is some cross-over between the two, of course, but I haven't heard anyone try to argue we'll be better off anymore.

Which is progress of sorts because three years ago, everyone was saying the brilliant deals/the billions for the NHS.

Its still odd though: That people want us to be poorer.

Yes, the breakup of the Uk is now a very real possibility. In the 2015 GE the SNP down all but 3 of Scotland’s seats. When they kept banging on about Indyref 2, it seemed to be the issue that caused them to lose 21 of those seats, mostly to the Tories. Current polling suggests the SNP are back up to almost a clean sweep in Scotland.

The independence referendum was nasty. The thought of there being another one fills me with dread (I am in Scotland). The result of the referendum was not as close as the EU referendum, but should have still been a wake up call to Cameron that running an advisory referendum, and agreeing to abide by the result, on a 50.1% majority was utter lunacy. Referenda which change the status quo should only be won on a two thirds majority, then we know that the majority of the voting population are in agreement, (or at least those who could be bothered to vote), and the results wouldn’t be tearing the country in half.

The result of the referendum in favour of joining the EC in 1975 was 67%..............

Actually something the leavers could help me with.
Where do you get the special 'leavers' pass that says that once you put a cross on a bit of paper it is up to everybody else to provide explanations for your choice, and make all the preparations for actually leaving and then fix things leavers perceived as 'wrong'?
After 3 years it would be polite if they could manage to come up with a tincey wincey little plan.
You want respect for your action, earn it.